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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:21 PM
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Bill Clinton says Pres is a nice guy.
Do you agree with this hero of the Dem Party?
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:22 PM
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1. Please--I just had dinner...
what president was he referring to?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:23 PM
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3. Dubya
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:23 PM
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2. I don't have to agree with Bill Clinton on everything
and certainly not in his faint praise of Bush.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:26 PM
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13. Yeah, he said Busholini is a nice guy.
I feel that Busholini is a Silverspoon Sociopath,the worst Pres in recent US History and a sadistic, arrogant ASSHOLE. I am real disappointed in Bill Clinton in many ways but this top them all.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:27 PM
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19. It's just damning Bush with faint praise.
"Nice" is one of those ways to do that.

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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:23 PM
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4. No doubt Eva Braun made a similar statement
Sounds like the neighbor after the guy next door is arrested for serial killings. "I can't believe it! He seemed like such a nice guy...."
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:23 PM
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That's just his "presidential courtesy" talking...
He knows all too well what Dub's really about...count on it!

B-)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:26 PM
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14. That's what I think...
Just because you give backrubs to female German chancellors and fart in front of White House interns, that doesn't make one a nice guy. From everything I've read from those who've been around him, he's a garden-variety asshole with mental problems.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:23 PM
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5. maybe, but politickin' ain't the place for W!
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 09:32 PM by Drum
Even nice people get into situations that are way waaay beyond them. GWB appealed to something in a lot of voters, probably the overwhelmed-by-it-all-but-barking-loudly aspect of him.

Some people's idea of an ordinary or dim guy who's scrappy anyway...
Now we all know that it makes a very lousy idea for a President, one particularly known for bad ideas, bad advice, and bad judgement.

We should---as soon as possible---return W and his pals to the bucolic country lifestyle that claim, the very heartland for which they sacrifice so many native sons.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:24 PM
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6. I don't know -- I've never met the president.
Plenty of incompetent people are "nice."
Plenty of people who are horrible to work with are "nice" on a personal level.
Hell, plenty of evil people are "nice."
They pal around with your kids, treat your mom with respect, compliment your cooking.

Whether the president is a "nice" person or not is really irrelevant to his ability (or, more directly, his inability) to govern.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:25 PM
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10. "Nice" is certainly faint praise for a President. A cold drink is "nice."
Clinton was just being diplomatic.

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:29 PM
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24. Nice guys wreck lives. That's the subtitle to Richard Bach's Book
called "Creative Aggression". In Mr. Bushes case it's not even well enough thought out to be creative.
Just petulant, hammering, stammering aggression.
Have I told you lately how much I.......
miss Mike Malloy :) ?
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:34 PM
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29. Ted Bundy was nice too. Don't psychopaths tend to be nice until ....
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:24 PM
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7. Well,, isn't THAT special. nt
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:24 PM
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8. Proof that he DOES inhale
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:28 PM
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23. LOL n/t
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:35 PM
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32. heh heh heh.....
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:25 PM
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9. And THAT is why Hillary Clinton won't be elected in 2008
This isn't exactly "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" we're talking about here. This is simply compromiser political footsie.

Whatever Bill's strengths were as President, this is really a bad move on his part.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:32 PM
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27. If politics could get married, Mr Bush and Mr Clinton are the First Family
:crazy:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:25 PM
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11. I've said this a few times to my husband.
As a president, Bush is a weiner and an idiot. He's a piece of shit. But as a person, he might be fun to hang out with. He kinda reminds me of the class clown types I hang out with. He's kinda dim, but he'd probably be fun to party with. :hide:
Duckie
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:35 PM
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31. Adorable polar bear picture. I love bears.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:35 PM
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33. Thanks!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:51 PM
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46. Stephen (Colbert) would be disappointed in you for loving bears ..
HeeHee.

;-)
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:40 PM
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38. I wish I could blow this up to 36 point size to show you what I think
:puke:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:45 PM
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47. So, I'm not allowed to think someone you don't like...
...might be interesting or even fun on a personal level? I wish I could blow this up to 72 size to show you what I think. :eyes:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:29 PM
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51. To think you would want to be in the same state with that leper
is beyond stupefying to me. I would rather be locked in a cage full of Black Mambas.

Double :puke: on that sonofabitch.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 05:01 PM
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54. I like to think there's good in everyone...
And I won't apologize for it.
Duckie
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:51 PM
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42. Especially if your idea of fun is sticking firecrackers up the asses
of bullfrogs and blowing them up.

I think NOT.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:48 PM
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48. Oh my god.
So not what I meant.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:13 PM
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50. I figured not; but that was one of Bush's youthful pleasures.
:hi: He is a sicko.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:26 PM
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12. I turned him OFF.
Does Clinton forget what hell he was put through with Impeachment?

Don't be a doormat. Don't be a fool. The Devil is NOT a nice guy.
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:27 PM
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20. I don't remember Bush being in on the impeachment biz.
;-)
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:32 PM
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26. All Repugs were "in" on it as far as wanting to get Clinton.
I wouldn't cut any one of them any slack.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:26 PM
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15. A lot of Nazi sychophants were nice too, you know.
Yes, yes I totally godwinned the thread. Booyah!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:27 PM
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16. I live in Jim Leach's district and many describe him as nice
I told one local Dem who said that in no uncertain terms that those who have policies or support people who espouse policies that are anti-humanity can never be in my view "nice guys". When I was growing up I could never say that those who supported racist practices could ever be considered "nice" people.
I hear people say all the time "I don't hate Bush, I hate his policies." Well I am hear to say I hate the man because of his policies. Period.
Quit the bullshit, Bill Clinton. That little boy in the White House brings shame to our country. He deserves to not to be given a pass because he has a cute smile.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:27 PM
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17. Nice and stupid, yeah.
:eyes:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:28 PM
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22. LOL!
nt
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:27 PM
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18. Without knowing him personally it's hard to say.
Most everyone who meets him says he's charming and affable. His politics are horrible, his policies a disaster but that doesn't mean one on one, just as a person, he isn't a nice guy. I have a few aquaintences that are total assholes in their business lives but cool people away from it. Considering he's a silver spoon, elitist cocksucker it's doubtful but you never know.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:28 PM
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21. Goebbels
was said to be a charming man. Perhaps Dubya is giving Bubba an added drop on those par 5's.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:30 PM
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25. Friend or foe, can you tell in these pics?
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 09:40 PM by HypnoToad

(Bush Sr is saying "What's this hemorrhoid behind me?")


(Bush Jr is saying "Yummy, shit's never tasted this good!")


(Can you tell?)


(Clinton must be thinking "I'm starting to fit in after all these years!!")


(Bush Sr isn't exactly happy...)


(Hmmm)


(Hmmm x2)


(Well golly shazam! Guess who is trying to (badly) hide a look of not-happy? Why it's Bush!!)


(Wear your glasses and look the other way!)


(obvious)








(DAMNING, ISN'T IT??)

And a quaint little animation of Bush Sr vs Clinton:
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/22226762/1683511 (click to view)



(I wish I kept the Time magazine from 2001 that has Jr looking angry at Clinton as they shook hands on Clinton's way out... "OUCH!" doesn't begin to cover it, but these dudes hate Clinton. That or I'm really misinterpreting a bunch of quickly found context-less pictures. )
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:40 PM
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37. That's a great set of Clinton pictures!
excellent!
:thumbsup:
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:32 PM
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28. No. He's welcome to his opinion and if wants to triangulate with
slime, that's his business.

I've had enough of Clinton and I'm glad he and his bad policies are gone.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:34 PM
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30. Clinton never says a bad thing about anybody.
Despite the devilish image the freeptards have constructed of him, the truth is that Clinton never says anything bad about anyone. To the contrary, he always goes out of his way to either say nothing about someone, or to say something positive, as he did in this case.

In fact, one reason I know Clinton is on God's side and Freepers aren't, is because Clinton behaves like Jesus in the midst of his ememies, while his enemies act like demons in his presence.

(Not saying Clinton is God; just saying that if there IS a God, Clinton is less of a sinner than his political opponents are.)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:43 PM
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40. A fair viewpoint
Though I wouldn't quite equate him to a deity... I will acknowledge his balancing of the budget and what certainly looked like real attempts to make real peace in countries that need to find their Funk and Wagnalls and remember the definition of the word...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:51 PM
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43. That's symptomatic of schildren who grow up with an alcoholic...
in Clinton's case his stepfather. The desire to please and placate.

The children of alcoholics can also grow up to be mean and petty. Especially if the alcoholic is responsible for the child's Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. That's the case with bush jr.
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:38 PM
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34. Hero?
Clinton and Bush have far more in common than most people think in regards to political beliefs.

Clinton is no hero of mine.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:39 PM
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35. John Wayne Gacey
was a "nice guy", according to his neighbors. How many times have you heard "he seemed like a nice guy" after a man has been charged with rape, murder or some other heinous crime. I think this was a subtle put-down.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:40 PM
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36. A man who would wage a war of aggression and kill innocents is not nice.
Did Clinton think of all the deaths Bush is responsible for - including our troops - before he said such a thing?? :shrug:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:41 PM
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39. Does Bill Clinton have to scream as loud as we do?
Some things to keep in mind:

First, he's in a different position than we are. It's acceptable for US to be "mad as hell". For Clinton, that would be a major blunder -- kind of like if the Pope bad-mouthed the Muslims. So instead, he's treating them the with kind of respect they disdain to show anyone else.

Second, he's never failed to make the Republicans look bad by just this kind of civil behavior.

Clinton's political nuances are unimportant now -- he's a symbol of the Democratic Party, and everything the vulgar Republicans hate. All he has to do is to outclass them, and he wins.

And we win.

You say you don't like Clinton? Fine. But it's a win anyway. A freebie. Even if you're fashionably cynical. So enjoy.

--p!
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:52 PM
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44. I second this view.

He bumped the elder and he outshines junior all the time. Why spoil that with petty remarks or, God forbid, smirks? Being gracious
is part of the package.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:43 PM
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41. They say Ronald Reagan was gracious and polite in person.
You can't be 100% rotten 100% of the time.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:59 PM
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45. Did It Ever Occur To Anyone That Clinton Might Think It Is Time
For him to be gracious? Bill Clinton won't be universally loved by History for his two terms - but "Clinton called Mr. Bush 'a nice guy' on Larry King Live might be the only positive comment Bush gets when History judges him.
Now, off to Stewart for my fix of REAL news.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:56 PM
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49. Clinton's tragic flaw is that he wants to be loved by everyone.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:31 PM
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52. No, I do not agree. A few of the many reasons why
the dumbass isn't nice:

He's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent people.

He has ordered and approves of torture.

He is a pathological liar.

He takes no responsibility for his actions.

He enjoys belittling people.

He is arrogant.

He is a coward.

He is a spoiled, overindulged rich kid who has never worked an honest day in his life and is contemptuous of everyone but the "have and have mores."

There is nothing "nice" about chimpy. He's a piece of shit through and through.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:33 PM
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53. excuse me? i have yet to hear anyone on this board declare "hero"
of the democratic party.

i would say you phrased this sentence to be as condescending and offensive as you could.
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