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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:02 PM
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DNC: WH Release of S.S. Records Of Visits By Abramoff Cronies Not Complete
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 09:13 PM by bigtree
9/20/2006 7:49:00 PM


DNC: White House Finally Releases Culture of Corruption FOIAs

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=72864

WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- After months of negotiations and stonewalling by the Bush White House, the administration was forced to finally release Secret Service WAVE records detailing visits by Abramoff cronies and Republican culture of corruption co-conspirators Grover Norquist, Patrick Pizzella, Ralph Reed, Michael Scanlon, and David Safavian between Jan. 20, 2001 and May 12, 2005. The Democratic National Committee filed the FOIA request with the Department of Justice in Jan. 2006 in an attempt to uncover the truth about the full extent and nature of the roles these figures played in the Bush White House.

Unfortunately, the Secret Service WAVE records released today are not the full and complete record. This is due to a policy change under the Bush administration, pursuant to which the United States Secret Service turned over its WAVE records to the White House after 30 days and then destroyed its copies of the records. The records turned over to the White House then become protected by Executive Privilege and not subject to FOIA, thus insulating them from release, even if they would have been disclosable under FOIA if they were still held by the Secret Service. In fact, the administration has been so intent on blocking disclosure of these records, the Bush Justice Department attempted to take the absurd position that Secret Service records aren't subject to FOIA.

The five people named in the FOIA request have since been shown to be intimately involved in a number of Republican schemes. Some have pled guilty to various crimes related to business deals with Abramoff, and others have been implicated in various pay-to-play schemes. In fact, Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed are so intimately linked and invaluable to the Bush White House, that the White House tried at one point to argue that they were such valuable and important advisors to the White House on tax policy and "other conservative policies" that their discussions with White House officials should be protected by the "deliberative process" privilege. This privilege protects discussion of policy among U. S. government officials. Such a move would extend a protection for U.S. Government employees to Republican lobbyists. The Bush administration also tried to keep records of convicted former Bush official David Safavian's meetings secret, by arguing that his "privacy" should be protected. This assertion was made despite the fact that Safavian was a government official conducting official business, and that he was convicted of lying to the government in order to take free trips and gifts from Abramoff.

"By trying to extend a special privilege typically reserved for U. S. Government employees, to protect their Abramoff cronies like Grover Norquist, and Ralph Reed, the Bush administration showed just how willing they are to manipulate the law to hide the truth and protect their political interests," said Democratic National Committee Communications Director Karen Finney. "It's become a disturbing Nixonian pattern from the Bush administration, that when faced with legitimate questions they don't want to answer, they resort to ethically questionable maneuvers to hide the truth and stonewall rather than giving honest answers."

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=72864
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:10 PM
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1. THIS................STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN...
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 09:11 PM by flyarm
according to this paragraph..this stinks..big time...

Unfortunately, the Secret Service WAVE records released today are not the full and complete record. This is due to a policy change under the Bush administration, pursuant to which the United States Secret Service turned over its WAVE records to the White House after 30 days and then destroyed its copies of the records. The records turned over to the White House then become protected by Executive Privilege and not subject to FOIA, thus insulating them from release, even if they would have been disclosable under FOIA if they were still held by the Secret Service. In fact, the administration has been so intent on blocking disclosure of these records, the Bush Justice Department attempted to take the absurd position that Secret Service records aren't subject to FOIA.


this is "our house"..not pissy pants ..this is "our house"..so we should have every right to know who goes in and who comes out..at all times..

the fucking hypocrisy of the rethugs just gags me..how many times did we hear about the Lincoln bedroom and who slept there..

but yet gannon ..pissy pants man whore was in the living quarters 14 times..and either entered and did not exit or visa versa..but we could not get full records ..because pissy pants changed the rules..well who the fuck gave him the right to change the rules??

thats my house and i sure did not give him the right to change the fucking rules!

fly
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:30 AM
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5. Imagine the uproar if Clinton was covering up like this
The release was not complete. What are they hiding?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:03 PM
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13. Think "Travelgate"? How much time did they waste on that? nt
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:11 PM
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2. K & R nm
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:11 PM
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3. cover-up continues
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:05 AM
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4. Audio commeth... n/t KR
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:39 AM
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6. Hmm, now why would the WH refuse to release these records?
What possible alternative explanation could there be except they were lying about visits by these particular unsavories? Unless Bush** is in the habit of inviting all kinds of unsavories to the WH....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:34 AM
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7. And at the "western white house" where he spends a good deal of our dime
he doesn't have to report any visits at all.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:12 AM
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8. Could the DNC read up on sound-bites and say something Joe Sixpack

can GRASP? Try calling liars who evade US law "LIARS WHO EVADE US LAW".

It works.







http://resources.aellalei.com/tools/writer/sample.php
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:27 AM
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9. Dean runs the DNC and he clips off soundbites like that all of the time
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 11:27 AM by bigtree
when folks jump on them for the substanative efforts that may require some thought and analysis, they are just encouraging the dumbing down of America. I'm not willing to succumb to the mindlessness that let's quips dominate over substance. Give the people the information. They can handle it.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:12 PM
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10. I FEEL as you do. I deal however with harsh reality, and some research.
Paste any of Kerry's speeches or above OP text into this :

http://resources.aellalei.com/tools/writer/sample.php

Study the results.

Paste Bush speech into same. Study the results.

You will come to some conclusions about our fellow citizens and the medias demand for us to PUNCH it UP and Dumb it down.

My feeling high & mighty when the Dems don't "sink" to the level of 90% of all Americans in order to communicate effectively will be cold comfort when we lose our dammned country.

My feeling high & mighty & smarter than other people is worth sacrificing for this Democracy.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:35 PM
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11. K&R!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:36 PM
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12. Up to their necks in corruption.
If only the MSM would be on We the Peoples side and not Georges. :(
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