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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:22 PM Original message |
The response to Pope shows hypocrisy. (a worthwhile read) |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. the catholic church still hides its pedophile priests, still regards |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Agreed |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. However the point is that critics of the Church have the right to |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. quite frankly |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Perhaps that's because you live HERE, not there. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. precisely my point |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. You're also more likely to die of a burst appendix here |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I think people have to get beyond emotional language. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Here's some "hate" from an Xtian freeper about to go to Iraq |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. Shit! I just spewed champagne all over my keyboard! |
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Blackthorn (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. You've only gotta worry about that if you want an abortion. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I am not giving xtian wackos a pass. I condemn anyone who |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. Is that true in Belfast? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
57. "We're not as bad as the other guys" isn't a great defence of a religion |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. True but conservative Catholics aren't threatening death to |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. no kidding. When is the Church gonna stop endorsing pedophiles? |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. But you have the ability to condemn these heinous crimes without |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Because the Chruch doesn't control our government yet |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. However the Church up until the Enlightenment did have power |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. not to mention their hateful views of gay people |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I am not a Catholic though my family is and I have profound |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. There are a lot of Muslims NOT rioting |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Condemnations did not just come from fringe groups. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Sounds like you wanted to hear what Syria's Grand Mufti said |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. When do they give back the stuff they stole from natives |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Protests are uncivilized when buildings get torched and mobs |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. ... |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:55 PM Original message |
The point remains that intellectually the Islamic world has stagnated. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. The point remains that intellectually the Islamic world has stagnated. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. That macaca who shot that nun... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Oh, no, you dint. |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. True, but.... |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Great points |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I agree that the remark is insensitive however the |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Hmmm, can't argue with you there |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. Q. Why do the muslims hate the Pope? |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
25. Oh Torstar thinks the Pope is misunderstood... |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Thank you for illustrating my point. This is a perfect |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. If this Pope is old-fashioned and very conservative, and he is, |
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Hatalles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I agree w/ you and I'm sure you agree with this.... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I was careful to distinguish between the day-to-day devotionist in |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Has the dead nun been connected to the Popes statements? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Agreed. And I think the media also must realize that almost all |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
60. Turn a negative into a positive? |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. Kicked and rec'd |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Well said. I couldn't agree more that "liberals don't make |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. Thank YOU! |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
33. Meh... motes, logs, eyes... etc. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
34. My thought is that it's true; one must tread softly |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The point is that he wasn't stating his opinion. He was stating |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I wasn't speaking of chronological age. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. This emotive rant is completely off the mark. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You are of course entitled to your opinion |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. But I am not stating an opinion. It is a statement of fact that |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Remember when the shrub said "Bring it on!" |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Using your logic blacks in the US should never have demanded |
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Homer Wells (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. Islam is still about 500 years younger |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. This argument keeps surfacing and its completely empty for 2 reasons. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Well, let's not forget that the West conquered the Islamic lands |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
45. It seems the Western World is making its mind up about Islam |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
46. Stop the attacks on Islam |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
48. not quite |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. *cough*Ireland*ahem* |
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