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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:21 PM
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Allen says he eats ham sandwiches and pork chops
…therefore, he isn't really Jewish.

(snip)

He said in an interview that he was aware of his heritage when asked about it during the nationally televised debate Monday with Webb sponsored by the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce. Allen did not directly answer a panelist's question on his lineage but sternly criticized her for asking about religion.

(snip)

Speaking with The Times-Dispatch, Allen said the disclosure is "just an interesting nuance to my background." He added, "I still had a ham sandwich for lunch. And my mother made great pork chops."

(snip)

A leader of Richmond's Jewish community, Ric Arenstein, was disturbed by the timing of Allen's announcement.

"This story has been rumored and raised with him repeatedly," said Arenstein, a former president of the Jewish Federation of Richmond who has ties to both political parties. "I guess it troubles me that he cares so little about his lineage that he waited until it was irrefutable."

more…
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149190712778
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:22 PM
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1. This is pitiful
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:41 PM
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38. George Felix Allen Jr.: From MACACA to MESHUGAH in record time...
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 03:42 PM by johnfunk
... and the pitiful FReepers can't take it! Why? George Felix Allen Jr. has staked his political capital on a "good-ol-Southern-boy" facade that took a lifetime to cultivate -- and is now crumbling before his eyes. Cazart! His Neoconfederate base now has to cope with the mental image of George Felix Allen Jr. as -- heaven forbid! -- a jewy Jew just like that obnoxious Al Franken, that grating Randi Rhodes, that pinko Noam Chomsky, or those odious traitors Julius and Ether Rosenberg! The horror! THE HORROR! IT BURNS! IT BUUUURNS!!!! I CAN'T STO...
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TheSubliminableKid Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 04:45 PM
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42. Ham Sandwich: $4.99
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 04:46 PM by TheSubliminableKid
Pork Chops: $12.99
Watching a Freeper's head explode as cognitive dissonance reaches critical mass: PRICELESS

PS: LOVE the "Freeper head explodes" graphic. Bears more than a passing resemblance to Jim "Pimp my RV" Robinson!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 04:58 PM
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43. It's pathetic that he felt the need to say that he eats pork
Pathetic about him and the state of American politics.

Btw, the exploding freep-noggin is priceless.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:12 PM
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44. rofl n/t
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:24 PM
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2. So he latches on to the pork restriction, as if that is what DEFINES Jews?
I am with eleny on this one...pitiful.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:34 PM
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11. The depth of his comprehension on any topic is no greater than a light dew
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 02:34 PM by TahitiNut
Even his superficiality is superficial - Yosemite Sam is a more nuanced and complex 'person.'
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:49 PM
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22. Pork restriction applies to orthodox Jews.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:03 PM
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24. .....
:banghead:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:25 PM
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3. Please, please, please
Virginia voters, get rid of this fucking idiot.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:25 PM
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4. And I give a hearty "Heil Hitler" salute every morning
I've even lynched a few Maccaca Jews during my lifetime. So, it's all okay see!

Could this guy be any more stupid?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:26 PM
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5. What he ate for lunch and his mother's cooking skills...
those are relevant topics, but his ancestry isn't. Ya'll get that straight now.

:wtf:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:26 PM
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6. Here's the problem
He's saying it's not relevant, yet at the same time he says that suggesting he has Jewish heritage is "casting aspersions" (like saying he has a gambling problem or something), calling Webb campaign people "anti-Semitic", all the while spinning like mad trying to be as non-Jewish as possible (by eating pork, aparently).

Hypocricy at its worst, not to mention projection regarding the casting aspersions thing, seeing as how he's calling Webb people anti-Semites now. This would be funny if it weren't so damn sad.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:29 PM
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9. Another bit of hypocrisy...
it wasn't the Webb people who brought this subject to light, it was a Jewish publication that first published an article regarding his ancestry and a local Washington reporter who read the article. They are now trying to twist it into something that Webb and his supporters instigated, and it most certainly wasn't.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:32 PM
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10. Yup. He can't just say ...
"Yes I'm part Jewish and proud of it." He knows the klan members he calls his base will stop inviting him to parties.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:35 PM
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13. He doesn't even have to say that
All he has to do is tell the truth and end it. All he has to say is "I have some Jewish ancestry". If indeed that's true, then that's it. No need for clarification, no need to say "yes, but..." and then publicly give examples of supposed non-Jewishness. All this "see, I'm not *really* one of them" business is offensive and unnecessary.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:38 PM
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16. Pretty much sums it up.
:thumbsup:

I wonder if he realizes how desperate and humiliating he looks...
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:28 PM
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7. So now can we call him an apostate?
Jus' kiddin'
:evilgrin:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:28 PM
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8. He's a bafoon....
The bill plagiarizing alone should bury him, but sadly, it wasn't played up a big as this in the media.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:41 PM
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20. I 've have been saying this about him everysince I found out that..
the republicons were putting up another buffoon for president. Is this what they want for this country a bunch of bumbling, stumbling idiots for president can't they see when someone is stupid.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:34 PM
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12. Lying, cholesterol ridden racist
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:36 PM
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14. I know these rethugs
don't garden...every person who gardens knows when 2 stop digging that hole.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:38 PM
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15. Hey,what's he got against bacon?
:shrug:
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Tummler Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:39 PM
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17. I'm surprised he could successfully eat the ham sandwich
I'd have figured the sandwich could somehow outsmart him and escape.
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drubytue Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:05 PM
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26. He heard you could get indicted for having a ham sandwich
NT
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:14 PM
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45. Heheh..
.... funny shit!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:39 PM
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18. LOL
What a distinguished American!!!

He knows football AND pork chops!!!

I'll just swoon if he endorses bacon :rofl:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:40 PM
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19. Has Jon Stewart said anything about this yet?
I await with baited breath....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:44 PM
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21. Oh Vey! I eat pork all the time!
And seafood with the lobster why not!

Now my sister, she could make a mechaya bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich... with the lettuce nice and crisp... and the bacon just right...

Oy! Look at me! I sound like a chaza!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:59 PM
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23. (Ma)caca de toro!
I distinctly recall going out for brunch in NYC with some friends, who are Jewish. As the only Gentile, I was debating the social etiquette of ordering bacon with my Belgian waffle when, lo and behold, one of them did the same! Problem solved -- and that puts the fork, so to speak, to the theory that consumption of pork products somehow immunizes Sen. Macaca against the "aspersion" of being Jewish.

You know what? I'll bet if you poke around, you can find some Catholics who eat meat on Fridays, and maybe even during Lent. :eyes:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:10 PM
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28. I'm not even Catholic and I observe Lent
No drinking from the toilet!

:evilgrin:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:05 PM
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25. When will he release the photos of his Johnson?
:eyes:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:09 PM
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27. KARL!!!!
:rofl::spank::rofl::spank::rofl::spank::rofl:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:11 PM
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29. Me bad. Me real bad.
:D
:silly:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:14 PM
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31. They need a points-outta-the- park-before-the-pitch-comes smiley...
just for that sorta thing, karl!

:rofl:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:12 PM
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30. God made Moshe & Esther, not Aaron & Yaakov!!!!
But if Allen feels like a pork chop or a shrimp cocktail, all of a sudden they start picking and choosing their Bible verses.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:18 PM
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32. BREAKING NEWS: Latest Poll: Allen trails against Ham Sandwich
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 03:29 PM by Leopolds Ghost
Allen is now running attack ads saying that the Ham Sandwich is not an authentic Virginia-baked Ham.

Allen reveals he has nothing against shellfish, despite recent remarks saying they were "an abomination unto the Lord."
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 04:06 PM
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41. Ham sandwich dipped in college -- play for rural vote.
Dipped in honey vinegar sauce, not chewing tobacco. How misleading.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:18 PM
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33. Heaven forbid his MORAN redneck base gets wind of the fact
that he's got a few drops of "Jewish blood" in him...he's got to play full-court denial at this point!
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:28 PM
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34. George Felix "Facacta Macaca" Allen!
I'm really enjoying this guy's campaign!!
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:31 PM
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35. Boy, wait until we find out, he's got some black in him !
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:32 PM
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36. .....
www.blackpeopleloveus.com

:rofl:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 04:03 PM
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40. Webb should do an ad condemning those who question Allen's North African
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 04:04 PM by Leopolds Ghost
French heritage. :popcorn:
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:41 PM
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37. oy. Could this schlub be more pathetic? n/t
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:41 PM
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39. The good news is....
He's not Muslim either :D

Peace.
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oldboy101 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:51 PM
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46. A person's heritage should not be held against him...
...unless he is ASHAMED of it, as only a bigot might be. All indications are that Allen is ashamed that his mother was born an African Jewess!

His attempts to deny this by saying she embraced Christianity and served ham and pork chops to her family are pathetic. So too is his claim that he only learned recently that his maternal grandfather was Jewish.

The only bright spot I can see in this mess is that there will now be a lot of voters in Virginia who will think twice before voting for this fool.
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