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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:47 PM
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Report documents 25 'most corrupt' in Congress
Five of the names on the list are currently under federal investigation: Senators Conrad Burns (R-MT) and Bill Frist (R-TN) and Representatives Jerry Lewis (R-CA), William Jefferson (D-LA), and Alan Mollohan (D-WV).

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A majority of those listed are Republicans, several of whom have been linked to the spreading Jack Abramoff and "Duke" Cunningham scandals. As well as those cited as being under investigation, the Top 20 includes such high-profile names as Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) and Representatives Roy Blunt (R-MO), John Doolittle (R-CA), Tom Feeney (R-FL), Katherine Harris (R-FL), Richard Pombo (R-CA), Pete Sessions (R-TX), John Sweeney (R-NY), and Curt Weldon (R-PA). Representatives Chris Cannon (R-UT) and J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ) are among the dishonorable mentions.

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However, the report does not spare Democrats, even popular ones. As well as Representatives Jefferson and Mollohan, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) are both cited for using their offices to benefit family members.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/New_report_documents_25_most_tainted_0920.html

Now, I sure don't pretend that Dems are all angels! But Jack Murtha????? What am I missing here????

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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:51 PM
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1. If, like Maxine Waters, you oppose Bushco with all your heart
then I'll turn a blind eye to family benefits any day
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Skelington Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 04:28 PM
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15. That's mighty big of you,
what else are you willing to let go just to achieve your objective?
"family benefits",... no matter how you frost it it's still against the law. What if they just oppose Bush with half a heart?

Credibility requires consistancy, selective adhearance to the law is a Republican trait.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:52 PM
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2. Murtha has had ethics problems in the past...
mainly concerning his brother who is a lobbyist and some of his ties to defense contracting, but most notably he was involved in the ABSCAM scandal.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:53 PM
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3. Haven't read the report but...
I'll almost guarentee that the Murtha problems are from his tendency to slide defense work to clients of his brother, Kit, a defense-industry lobbyist. Yes, it stinks, but it's more or less par for the course in Congress.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:00 PM
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4. I would be less concerned about corruption if
we could get someone elected that knew how to run a country.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:17 PM
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5. Murtha has been the Pentagon's darling for years
and has supported every outrageous thing they've ever wanted. Undoubtedly he wasn't doing it out of the goodness in his heart.

I'm not a bit surprised he's on this list.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:19 PM
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6. If Ted Stevens isn't on that list, the list is completely fake.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:35 PM
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9. You have personal knowledge of Steven's corruption?
While I think he is an ass and needs to retire I have never heard he was corrupt. Do you have evidence to the contrary? Maybe you could supply a link to justify your accusations.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:45 PM
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10. You ever heard of the "Bridge to Nowhere"
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:17 PM
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12. Here is what I know
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ted_Stevens#Alaska_pork

Building a 250 million dollar bridge to connect an island with 50 people living on it (enough for each resident to purchase a jet Bell helicopter to fly to the mainland), and then threatening to quit the senate in a huff if he didn't get it, qualifies him for pork gone utterly and completely off the charts. That is corruption personified, when the public fisc is raped and plundered.

And no, I don't have a link to which contractor bribed him to get this contract. I'm guessing in a couple of years they'll indict him for that, AFTER he has raped and pillaged the treasury
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 04:00 PM
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14. You do know that Ketchikan airport is the ONLY international
airport in the USA without road access. While it may be an extravagance it certainly is not criminal nor a sign of corruption. If you are going to accuse one of corruption at least understand what you are saying. It would appear by your definition that all highway pork is built around corruption instead of just trying to bring money home to constituents. I don't happen to agree.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 05:02 PM
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16. This one is so far over the top I consider it corruption
As do most who have reviewed that issue
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:21 PM
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7. Time to swift boat Murtha
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:31 PM
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8. Just to be clear, that's four Ds out of 25.
"However, the report does not spare Democrats, even popular ones. As well as Representatives Jefferson and Mollohan, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) are both cited for using their offices to benefit family members."

That's the whole list of corrupt Democrats, right there. Murtha is on the "dishonorable mention" list.

http://www.beyonddelay.org/node/96
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:50 PM
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11. There's a qualitative difference in the corruption.
The Dems are free-lancers. The Republican National Committee has morphed into an Organized Crime Syndicate. They certainly aren't interested in running progressive reformers in their national races.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:26 PM
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13. link to CREW
http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=156

CREW’s Most Corrupt Members of Congress:
Members of the Senate:
Conrad Burns (R-MT)
Bill Frist (R-TN)
Rick Santorum (R-PA)

Members of the House:
Alan Mollohan (D-WV)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
Ken Calvert (R-CA)
Richard Pombo (R-CA)
John Doolittle (R-CA)
Rick Renzi (R-AZ)
Tom Feeney (R-FL)
Pete Sessions (R-TX)
Katherine Harris (R-FL)
John Sweeney (R-NY)
William Jefferson (D-LA)
Charles Taylor (R-NC)
Jerry Lewis (R-CA)
Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Gary Miller (R-CA)
Curt Weldon (R-PA)

Five Members to Watch:
Chris Cannon (R-UT)
J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ)
Dennis Hastert (R-IL)
John Murtha (D-PA)
Don Sherwood (R-PA)
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