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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:24 AM
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Could a parallel government save the world?

I started thinking about it when reading about Obrador forming a parallel government in Mexico. So I conjured up a little fantasy of how that Parallel Government saved the world from it’s folly.

It all started when liberal groups started to form themselves together and realized that what they had was a parallel government that had the end to war and conflict as it’s goal and so they picked a president and representatives in the congress just like the real government.
And the first official act of the Parallel President was to recognize Obrador as the legitimate President of Mexico .This caught on and other countries started parallel governments that were willing to have peace as it’s official policy. And pretty soon there were enough of them that they formed the Parallel United Nations.
But the really slick thing is how this was all financed Soon they realized that they could pay tax to this government and that tax could be deducted from the tax they paid to the real government and money as it was needed, was there to fund the infrastructure of the Peace Government.
Well peace prospered and the old was gently replaced by the new.

I can dream can’t I….but hey it could happen.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:28 AM
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1. It just might come to that...
I've been thinking about that too. I don't think the neocons in charge now will relinquish power without a fight, that's for sure.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:29 AM
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2. I would love the formation of a parallel government. I would
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 08:29 AM by Dhalgren
support it with everything I have. Of course the Bush dictatorship would kill us all, but they will kill us all anyway, so why not go down fighting for a better world?
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:31 AM
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3. Hell I am old anyway
never though t I would live this long anyway
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:16 AM
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7. Hey, I'm with you. If I thought it would be effective and save some
of the younger folks to work in the rebuilding, I'd would join the Grandpas and Grandmas Brigades and do the fighting and dying to stop these fascist bastards. As you say, "Hell, I'm old anyway." Maybe it's time for us old codgers to step up (limp up?) and do some heavy lifting...
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:43 AM
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4. That is a dream
I'd guess there would be more war. We'd still obviously be doing things in a large scale fashion. We'd also be creating more competing centers of expanding power.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:08 AM
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5. Jefferson Davis may not agree. n/t
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:10 AM
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6. Just trying to organize one would be a mess....
Everyone is going to want to be in some position of power.

And how would anyone elect one anyway?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:20 AM
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8. How did the "Founding Fathers" do it?
There are always reasons why something can't be done. Who was it who said, "The first step toward success is a willingness to fail" (or something like that)?
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:28 AM
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9. By living
on land violently taken from other people, while also living within a social structure which kept most of the population well away from seats of power?

Hell, anyone can get anything done like that.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:53 AM
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14. The post I was responding to say this:
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 10:54 AM by Dhalgren
"Just trying to organize one would be a mess....
Everyone is going to want to be in some position of power.

And how would anyone elect one anyway?"


I wasn't commenting on the moral or ethical or humane nature of the "Founding Fathers" (note the quotation marks).

I could as easily cited the October Revolution or the French Revolution or the American Civil War or Chief Joseph's Long Ride. When a populace wants a different government they find a way. It may not be successful, it may not be what we would consider ideal, it may even be corrupt; but it can and has been done.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:48 AM
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11. I don't believe that analogy is applicable here.
Is this parallel government going to rule over seceded territory?

The American Revolution was a counter against, and eventually a split from English monarchical rule. That's not what's going on in Mexico. The Delcaration of Independence should clear any misconceptions about the similarities between the current situation in MExico and the US colonies right up.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:58 AM
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15. Here's what you posted:
"Just trying to organize one would be a mess....
Everyone is going to want to be in some position of power.

And how would anyone elect one anyway?"


It wasn't about Mexico, it was about us. And the idea has nothing to do with from whom one rebels or what one's motives are. It has to do with the desire and the execution. Many examples in the past show that it can be done; the outcomes may vary greatly, as do the reasons, and standing of the rebels, but all of them proved that it can be done...
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:49 AM
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12. I nominate Lucius Traveler to be the President
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smomfr Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:30 AM
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10. Obrador´s mentality is stuck in kindergarden.............
first it was tantrums now it´s ¨lets pretend´.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:32 AM
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13. And your sociality is stuck in the dark ages.
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