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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:08 PM
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We hear nothing from the "moderate" Muslim leadership
in this world in any attempt to quell the radical factions. Where are these people? And why can't they wake up and take a stand!

I don't get it. If someone wanted to make a difference they should gather these leaders together and start the diplomacy now.

Thoughts appreciated
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:09 PM
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1. Because you are not listening.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:32 PM
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8. exactly! lots of such moderation in so cal media nt
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:05 PM
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10. People expect all Muslims to send apologies in the mail for the
behavior of some.
btw,
Never heard a pope apologize for the terror campaign in the United States opposing abortion rights.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:19 PM
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2. Because they are drowned out by the crazies
Just as the moderates in this country are.

You see, it would not fit the MSM's mold for how crazy Muslims should appear by giving equal time to moderates, just as the Chimp's speeches are covered but the Democratic response isn't, even though the Chimp has a less than 50% approval rating, showing he represents the minority.

This is all to foment an appetite for war.

Don't fall for it.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:22 PM
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3. because this isnt reported. The media loves a firebrand not a peacenik
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:23 PM
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4. They're out there
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=74430

It's just hard to find anyone interested in talking to them. A muslim being nice and making sense isn't a good story. A muslim acting crazy and demanding blood is a much more interesting picture.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:23 PM
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5. Are you a Christian? If so, what have you done about
Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Jerry Hagee, and the KKK?

Why haven't moderate Christians taken these groups on and silenced them?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:12 PM
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19. Actually, many have
But in a free society, you can't expect them to be silenced completely. And The KKK hates many Christian groups - most anyone but themselves.

In many Muslim countries, there are free speech restrictions and societal norms that hurt the moderate cause. Here is is the protester who is silenced instead of the extremist not being able to be silenced. But they definitely are out there:

http://www.crescentlife.com/heal%20the%20world/moderate_muslim_view_of_islamic_terrorism.htm

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:24 PM
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6. Same reason we hear "Dems don't have a plan, blah, blah..." n/t
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:31 PM
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7. My guess it's like the buzz phrase-
The Democrats have no plan.

It's like Kerry said to Noreen O', When (bush) gives 7 to 10 speaches a week and th media runs them live but gives no time for a response then no one will ever know of the Democrats plan. (This is a big time paraphrase)

There are Muslims who are begging that their fellow religionist moderate their speach and behavior but that doesn't sell soap so you won't hear it.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:34 PM
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9. For the same reason that people claim
not to hear from the moderate Christians when nutjobs like Falwell spout off -- they're not newsy, they're not covered, no one's listening who's got the ability to get their side out there.

The nuts make much better stories.
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:05 PM
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11. Because they are afraid
no matter where you are; just takes one mullah's directive, from anywhere
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:22 PM
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12. again, that is not the case. There are many voices of peace.
some folks are just plain stone-deaf.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:24 PM
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13. If moderate Muslims were outspoken against radical Muslims
but also against Bush's policies, they would then be called "radical". I don't blame them for keeping to themselves.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:24 PM
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14. their silenced is explained w/ one word -- fatwa nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:35 PM
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15. What a load.
Your country invaded another country and murdered tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of innocent people. And now you are asking their "moderate" "leadership" to take a stand?

It's the so-called Christian leaders who need to find moderation.
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dollydew Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:56 PM
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16. no moderate muslims
Gee that's funny. I have personally seen (on non-mainstream media) peace demonstrations involving muslims. Remember what happened in Iraq about 2 years ago? Iraqis PEACEFULLY assembled to protest their living conditions. They were greeted with US gunfire. And you wonder where the moderates are? To quote Dr. Seuss "What would you do if it happened to you?".
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oncall247 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:00 PM
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17. Mainly because our media controllers don't show them or publish them
so that people can say precisely what you are saying.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:01 PM
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18. Two hours go by & you don't follow up on your OP???
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 10:02 PM by U4ikLefty
Hmmm, could this be a hit & run...or are you just lazy?
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:08 AM
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20. I'm here.....yes as a matter of fact..i was tired and took a nap
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 01:18 AM by peanutbrittle
I appreciate the responses and had every intention of following up either tonight or at 4:30 - 5:00 am when i have to get up and go to work, thanks for your concern.

The responses are varied as I somewhat expected them to be.

We have stirred up a hornets nest which I knew we would from the beginning of the Wars. With the failures of this administration how can one expect to get an outpouring of support from the more moderate Muslims of this world and those within this country.

I don't hear a peep in the MSM where I get my news as opposed to others here who seem to have.

The point to me is that the Dems should utilize this opportunity to take the bull by the horns and form a parallel government ( for lack of better terminology) in regards to foreign relations, get these people together across the world and start diplomatically denouncing the radical factions of Islam. Someone like Clinton, Jesse Jackson, etc. could do this and it would not only play well for the Dems but it would be a start for doing the right thing for peace in this deadly world.

IF our idiot gunslinging president can't seem to get off dead center, than someone else is going to have to. It might as well be the Dems, someone who knows how to do it and get the ball rolling. The time for starting diplomatic negotiation is NOW.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:47 AM
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21. I'm not hearing a hell of alot from the moderate Christian leadership
either.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:07 AM
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22. we hear nothing from moderates anywhere
the extremists have taken over
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