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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:15 PM
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Today my 12th grade daughter heard lecture by GOP county chief
It was a guest lecturer in her senior social studies class, the head of the Westchester County (NY)Republican Party (Minority, btw.) Tim Hays.

Some really great highlights:

"There are very very bad people in Iraq. We call them insurgents. The only true solution is to kill them all." (Emphasis on all.)

"We invaded Iraq so all the bad people would congregate there and we could go kill them."

"We invaded Iraq instead of Korea because it was easier."

"WMD are still out there somewhere and we have to keep looking."

When asked how we knew the WMD's were aimed at us, he said, "Call it a hunch."

When the kids told him all Hussein had was mustard gas, he said, "You'd be surprised how uncomfortable mustard gas can make you feel."

"We'll stay in Iraq a couple of more years."

"Saudi Arabia doesn't support Al Qaeida, but Hussein was suspected of meeting with Al Qaida leaders."

"Whatever we do with our captives is right, because we're the US and we have such strong morality."

"You should read opinion papers so you can come to your own conclusions."

The 12th graders tore his smarmy little wings off one at a time. They massacred him. They were furious, and kept up the argument when the bell rang.

My kid asked, "If we're dedicated to killing all the insurgents, how does that make us different from them?"

The lemming never had a chance. These are really sharp kids.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:17 PM
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1. Lol fake Id's huh LOL
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Rue Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:17 PM
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2. Good to see the class is so informed . . .
. . . especially considering that, from the implied tone here, he seemed to think they were total children, if not morons. This really gives me hope.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:18 PM
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3. Give your daughter a hug from me.
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 05:19 PM by 11 Bravo
Then, contact your local school board and rip somebody a new one. It is unconscionable to allow a purely political operative to address a captive audience.

on edit: typo
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:23 PM
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8. No it isn't
provided that all parties get an equal voice.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:18 PM
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4. So right-wingers are allowed to campaign for the party in schools
under the guise of being "guest lecturers" now? That's just disgusting. I'm glad the kids aren't as stupid as the GOP thinks they are.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:31 PM
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10. Last week it was the dems, and it made sense.
The teacher does this all the time, and the kids are thoroughly liberal, not to worry.

They were astounded at the guy's limited understanding of the world.

Brainwashed people should expect as much from teenagers. They can smell BS a mile away.

They flattened him. Don't worry. No converts this time.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:40 PM
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17. If it's equal time, that's different
Good to know.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:18 PM
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5. ::: sustained applause :::
:applause:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:21 PM
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6. Attempted brainwashing of superior brains.
Punishment: The Kids get to cane him.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:21 PM
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7. He sounds like he is reaching for straws
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:28 PM
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9. Let me in that school for a rebuttal! Please!
Redstone
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:31 PM
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11. So is the school system going to let a Dem lecture as well?
Fair is fair, and schools are publicly funded. You should call and let them know that the Democratic Chairperson should be able to "lecture" as well. Congrats to the young people for questioning that guy.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:31 PM
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12. So you're saying it was basically a fun day in class
You know, kind of a game: throw the Repuke in the lions' den and stand back.

Normally I'd say bringing only one party's representative into the classroom is a very bad thing. But when the idea is to let a Republican get torn apart, it's kinda sweet.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:36 PM
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16. They were angry, so yeah. It was fun.
Having met a certifiable Bushbot, it will be amusing next year when she's at college and the first right-wing evangelical tells her she's going to hell.

I remember my first time. Ahhh, the memories.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:35 PM
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22. This is why the right is pissed that students watch Jon Stewart...
for their news. They find out how fucked up the right's arguments are for the war and everything else. :+
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kentjay Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:31 PM
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13. she will be drafted in
the summer of next year after bush invades iran.peace and good luck to you.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:34 PM
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15. My family owns land in canada. They'll never get my daughter.
I don't believe for one minute we'll send our kids over there unwillingly.

America doesn't have the stomach for it.
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kentjay Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 06:12 PM
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18. glad to hear that.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:32 PM
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14. Training The Next Generation Of MORONS
Someone needs to take over for the 30%+ MORONS in the current adult population, so it's critical the young SHEEP be brainwashed before they learn any better.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:24 PM
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19. I have a son in 12th grade
His class would have done the same thing. I have great hopes for their generation based on all the evidence I've seen.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:31 PM
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20. Now you should request that your local Dem Party come in
with voter registration applications and have a talk. Let's get these kids voting in November -- those who will be 18 by election day can register to vote now.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:33 PM
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21. What town do you live in?
This Westchester resident is curious to know what school would invite this guy in.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:13 PM
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23. The re-education camps will have to be opened NOW
These young people haven't "got their minds right".

They're being noticed! Oh, yes.

Raise holy HELL for the school board in Westchester.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:59 PM
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24. jazzjunkiesue, your daughter should run for President.
She has a quality that Kerry never had; she was willing to stand up to a superior force (adults are very scary to teenagers) and speak truth to power and not back down.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:02 AM
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25. Good Lord. What grade is this Mr. Hays in?
Second?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:04 AM
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26. rare moment of truth there, "We invaded Iraq becasue it was easier
than invading North Korea"


Very true, very true.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:08 PM
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32. If Iraq was "easier"
Then what would constitute difficult? Our country getting sucked into the Hellmouth?


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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:22 PM
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33. Its easier because they don't have to actually do anything
they wanted to send troops in, we were positioned to do so, and selling it was much easier.

Plus, we knew Iraq had no WMD.

Basically, you have to realize that Iraq was easy, and still is easy, for BushCo.

They aren't risking anything, their biggest contributors are making record profits, they haven't had to ask the rich to sacrifice anything, the media isn't forcing them to make tough choices or take any kind of stand, and Bush gets to play War President.

So what if soldiers and innocent Iraqis are dying? Its not like BushCo gives a fuck.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:29 AM
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27. Your daughter did a great job. She could have added this .....
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:35 AM by gbrooks
Insurgent:

Etymology: Latin insurgent-, insurgens, present participle of insurgere to rise up, from in- + surgere to rise.

1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
2 : one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

Iraqis did not rebel against civil authority but a foreign invader that removed the
existing government and installed a non-elected imperial consul in its place.

Bremer's official title was Consul of the Iraqi (sic) Provisional Authority.

The Provisional government representatives were chosen by the US. The names of the
candidates in the first 'election' were kept secret. No Iraqi politician holding
office today can claim elected authority by any common sense notion of democratic
process.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:33 AM
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28. WOOHOO!!!
:woohoo: :grouphug: :bounce: :applause: :patriot:

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:37 AM
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29. High school seniors are smarter than this guy thinks
I went to highschool at the height of the Vietnam war and nobody could have come on campus and spun a similar line about travesty, either.

I can't count how many lies he listed.

We're still looking for Saddam's arsenal? Is he still looking for the Tooth Fairy?
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Luna_Chick Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:41 AM
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30. Thanks so much for sharing this!
I get so sick of hearing about how younger generations don't care. There's hope yet, and these students are living proof!
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:04 PM
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31. Did He Then Head Over to a Science Class?
and start yapping about Earth only being 2000 years old?

It really raises a good question: what is the elementary school equivalent of the repuke mentality? My guess is 1st or 2nd grade.
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