Ret Colonel: We are Conducting Military Ops in IRAN Right Now

[mod mom]

Retired Colonel: ‘We Are Conducting Military Operations Inside Iran Right Now. The Evidence Is Overwhelming.’
Just now on CNN, Air Force Col. Sam Gardiner (Ret.) said, “We are conducting military operations inside Iran right now. The evidence is overwhelming.”

Gardiner, who taught at the U.S. Army’s National War College, has previously suggested that U.S. forces were already on the ground in Iran. Today he added several additional new points:

1) The House Committee on Emerging Threats recently called on State and Defense Department officials to testify on whether U.S. forces were in Iran. The officials didn’t come to the hearing.

2) “We have learned from Time magazine today that some U.S. naval forces had been alerted for deployment. That is a major step.”

3) “The plan has gone to the White House. That’s not normal planning. When the plan goes to the White House, that means we’ve gone to a different state.”

Watch it:



http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/18/gardiner-iran/

[mod mom]

1. Maybe this knowledge inspired KO-thoughts anyone?

[H2O Man]

2. Important post.

I believe that these operations have been going on for over two years.

[mod mom]

3. but a Ret Colonel said so on CNN is important. Not to mention the info

giving the date of Oct 1st for ready orders.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2161779

[H2O Man]

4. I agree.

I also think it is interesting to consider some of the things Chris Matthews has been saying. As those who watch Hardball know, he has stated that he fears waking up and finding out that Bush has begun an American strike against Iran. Matthews has noted that it is worth wondering if Bush will leave office without attempting to resolve what he views as a serious problem with Iran. I think Matthews knows that: (a) Bush is motivated by a rigid "bibical" view of history; (b) Bush has limited insight, and views things in black and white terms; and (c) Bush believes that he has a moral, indeed divine right, to use violence to solve problems that he finds frustrating.

[mod mom]

5. Here's the f-ing Oct Surprise. :(

[Jazzgirl]

6. We're screwed.

I believe they'll go in before the elections. This is about saving "face" and ass, not about anything else. I fear waking up finding out we struck Iran too. Stoopid move. :-(

[DemReadingDU]

7. Wouldn't going into Iran before the elections,

guarantee Republican suicide in November elections?

A majority of Americans are already against war, and if Bush invaded Iran, who would support him? Dems would win the elections (unless the Repubs stole em)

[mod mom]

9. If they have special ops there which could provoke "an incident". * will

justify military action. ( at least this is what I am fearful of). Perhaps they know such an incident is on the way and are preparing the troops. (What do I know-I'm just a freaked out mom)

[Bucky]

13. Again, we lack the military firepower to actually do a genuine incursion

Our full Army force stands at about 500,000 troops. We have about 120,000 Army troops in Iraq--along with 20,000 Marines--and you have to nearly triple that number to account for troops in rotation in or just coming out of Iraq. That right there is the bulk of our fighting ground forces--almost all of our other Army personnel are in deployment to other theaters (Germany, Turkey, South Korea) or are either support or command personnel that don't count as combat units.

In other words, we have no Army to attack Iran with.

If anything is being dropped into Iran, it's elite commando/special forces units doing recon for possible air strikes or trying to interdict possible arms shipments from Iran to Iraq. There's not going to be a general invasion of Iran. For that matter, even an air strike would be a disaster; Iran's got far too many missiles ready to pound hell out of numerous assets we have throughout the Persian Gulf region. The rout or the US would be pretty total.

What you need to look out for is Bush attempts to quarenteen Iran as the election draws near. This crises is the mommy of the probable October suprisee.

[woodsprite]

14. Not with Diebold machines. If people revolt, here comes Martial Law n/t

[JanusAscending]

8. But..............

did I or did I not hear Wolf quickly have the whole concept disavowed by a neo con, before that segment of the show even went to commercial???? I believe that the Ret. Colonel was speaking the truth. We've been hearing about this for almost a year now. Yesterday I read here on DU that the Navy was positioning ships off the coast of Iran (to enforce the embargo, when we get one):sarcasm: Who tells the American people who don't have access to sites like ours, where they can perhaps get a "glimmer " of Truth,and that they are being told LIES!! It kills me that the MSM is JUST NOW reporting on things that we've known about for a year or more, and think they are doing a good thing for the country!! Where have they been hibernating, or did the neo cons stop the "payola" for them to remain stuck on STUPID ????? DC

[iconoclastic cat]

10. What does "gone to a different state" mean, exactly? n/t

[Bucky]

12. State of war, state of readiness... in this case it probably means

that we are engaged in limited incursions with the purpose of preparing ground for a larger assault. It would be true madness and I suspect it's all part of a hollow bluff. We don't have the military muscle to attack Iran. This is about scare tactics and, I suspect, creating an incident to complement the coming elections.

[kohodog]

11. Iraq was supposed to be the precursor to Iran but

They screwed up Iraq so badly their plans were pushed back. But now Bush has his ass in a sling and needs something dramatic to distract the country. I don't like where this is headed because even the neocons probably know how big a mistake this would be. Unfortunately, they live in a faith based world and everyone else will have to deal with the reatlty they leave behind.

[autorank]

15. Iran, October...these guys are not very original...this is probably true

by my WH algorhythm...presume ever expanding horizons of opportunities or losses; they always pick the biggest loss. What could be bigger than Iraq, Iran.

There is not passive acceptance of this by the military or by the PTB, you can be sure. We're heading down the runway now. These are tense times.

But then again, all these crooks pleading out...for what. Maybe it's a horse race -- get indicted or start a war. Or maybe it's start a war when you're indicted. In any case, at a real 30% approval, acting like a goof ball, and with barely one non government job created in six years ... think about it...this guy has no where to go but down.

NO WAR, done, finished.

Unnerving post, but necessary. Thanks KR

[mod mom]

16. PTB? Sorry couldn't figure that one out.