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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:28 AM
Original message
Is Leopold about to break a new story on Plame?
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 10:29 AM by Cheney Killed Bambi
From a comment left at the Next Hurrah, which has had some great analysis of Plamegate:

Good morning readers of The Next Hurrah
This is my first time commenting here. I feel it necessary to do so today. There will be a new wrinkle in this investigation soon, however, I cannot say whether it will help or hurt. I can tell all of you unequivocally that Jason Leopold, the reporter, has obtained raw copies of Grand Jury testimony that will likely see him having reported accurately on Karl Rove's truly being indicted and the after-the-indictment deal hammered out between the prosecution and Mr. Rove's attorney. I believe the letter to Mr. Luskin Mr. Leopold obtained will confirm that. But more importantly, in my opinion, the grand jury testimony that Mr. Leopold has--and may I add that whoever provided it to him did so illegally--has some very, very interesting information about VP Cheney and a certain individual at the CIA who used to work for John Bolton. If Leopold prints this story and provides copies of the testimony it will add yet another layer to this drama.

I speak about this based on second hand information. I know Mr. Leopold has been in Washington the past two weeks authenticating documents. Perhaps Mr. Leopold does not realize that the Beltway rivals Los Angeles as the gossip mecca of the US. Some of the attorneys and US Congressman he has been speaking with have thus shared his information with others.

I have not seen any of the materials first hand, but if what one of my Democratic aides to a particular Midwest congressman says is true all hell is about to break loose.


http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/09/you_could_write_1.html#comment-22486592

Perhaps this is total BS, but perhaps Leopold is on his way to redeeming himself?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:33 AM
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1. Oh! Jason Leopold is going to tell us when the Easter Bunny will arrive
I'll be waiting over the next 24 business hours.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:36 AM
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3. hahahaha
good one :-)
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:14 AM
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20. Don't you mean the GREAT PUMPKIN?
:rofl:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:29 AM
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24. He's rising up out of the pumpkin patch, with his big bag of toys....
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:33 AM
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2. The former. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:37 AM
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4. WOW, if this is true, Mr. Leopold won't be reporting much from
behind bars. Grand Jury testimony is secret! This is crap.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:59 AM
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9. True
But Jason's source would be the one committing the criminal offense, not Jason (unless Jason broke into the Courthouse and stole the transcript, or something bizarre like that)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:07 AM
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13. Yes but Jason can't report secret testimony either.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:13 AM
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18. Remember the Barry Bonds Steroids book?
That was based almost entirely on secret grand jury testimony. The authors of the book didn't commit any crime, it was the persons who gave them the grand jury testimony that committed a crime.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:18 AM
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21. Yes/No. Don't read sports stuff, but was the book written post
wrap up of the investigation?
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:21 AM
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22. Nope
they were still investigating. The final decision not to indict Barry Bonds was announced months after the book was published.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:28 AM
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23. No blowback for author of secret grand jury testimony or was
leaker not revealed?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:52 PM
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you are 100% correct!! about the book on bonds!! n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:38 AM
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5. I believe in Jason
and I believe Rove was indicted
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:03 AM
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11. FOR SALE



Do you ever get tired of being shat upon?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:07 AM
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14. Why do you think Rove's attorney has not released the entire
letter he received from Fitzgerald?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #14
26. No, really: That's my bridge...and it can be YOURS, for a modest fee
It's a little pathetic at this point.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:23 PM
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27. That is not an answer to my question
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 12:29 PM by seemslikeadream
and on edit BTW

This will be exposed




Dick Cheney exposed Valerie Plame to cover up his association with A.Q. Khan's Nuclear Walmart. Read about it here: http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #26
35. So far that bridge
has outlived you and me and it will probably continue to do so.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:32 PM
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30. Perhaps because there's neither an obligation nor common expectation
that he should?

I frequently don't do things I'm not required to do, and unless there's a general expectation that I do something, I don't feel like justifying it.

If you don't like the bridge in Brooklyn, a friend of mine is selling one near Lake Havasu. He's only owned it a few months, just a few crossings on it.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:18 PM
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28. Why else was Rove removed from his official white house post?
They don't ever do that to their own, unless one is on his way to the courtroom. Period. Rumsfeld is proof of that. Would he keep Rumsfeld after years of demands that he be fired, and demote Rove for no reason at all?

That's why it's not too hard to want to believe the Rove indictment story.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:38 AM
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6. Leopold's probably the poster
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 10:42 AM by Marie26
He used fake names to comment on that same website before.

"Jason Leopold, Sockpuppet Extraordinaire
By DHinMI

I had hoped Jason Leopold would just go away. It's clear from his own statements in various places that he's struggled with some substance abuse and mental illness issues. He has my sympathy for this. But he's now become a bigger story because he's made such grandiose claims about having deep sources all through the government and somewhere among the investigators or investigated in the Valerie Plame outing. So it's time to come forward and give you some evidence with which to assess Jason Leopold's credibility. I'll refrain from making conclusions, but it's worth putting out there for people to assess.

On January 14, 2006 in an excellent post emptywheel closely examined an article by Leopold in which she demonstrated his claims were not supported by his sources. Leopold showed up in the thread, and things got interesting. Leopold called me a pussy. Some guy named Tom Marconi claiming to be former CIA threatened commenter jonnybutter. Andy Gumbel, a writer at the Guardian, vouched for Leopold. And someone named Adam Yorkshire shilled for Leopold's book.

But here's the problem. If all these comments came from different people, they appear to have all spent that evening together, because all those comments came from just two ISP addresses.

All eight comments from Jason Leopold came from the same ISP address. (Typepad allows the administrator of a blog to see the ISP address comments come from, as well as ban by that ISP.) That ISP was also the address from which we recieved all three comments by Adam Yorkshire. And so did the second comment from Tom Marconi, the one where he threatened jonnybutter. But the first comment from Tom Marconi, as well as the comments by Andy Gumbel and Joshua Klein, originated from a different but common ISP address. Thus, one Marconi comment came from the same ISP address as all the Leopold and Yorkshire comments, and those are connected to the Gumbel and Klein comments by the other Marconi comment. One could conclude quite easily that Jason Leopold wrote all those comments himself. It would not be out of character, for on another thread a few months later Leopold admitted to posting comments on TNH under the moniker Harry Shep.

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/05/jason_leopold_s.html
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:44 AM
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7. I E-Mailed Leopold About This Back In April...
asking him to comment. Never heard back from him.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:12 AM
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17. I'm not surprised
He did seem to change the alias this time, at least! IMO, this is just Leopold hoping to create some "buzz" about how he was right all along. :eyes: He's hoping it gets picked up by other liberal sites, as it was here, so people will re-think their opinion of him. Very sad.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:49 AM
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8. In 24 business hours, all will be revealed.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:05 AM
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12. You beat me to it
:rofl:

Poor Jason. I really do believe he got freeped out somehow.

Someday he will reveal all. Hopefully before we are all raptured.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #8
39. 24...business weeks?
months?

years?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:02 AM
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10. One can only hope...for comedy value
...
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:09 AM
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15. I don't know how many more of his exposes we can survive
Skepticism aside, I hope he has the goods, though.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:12 AM
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16. i knew it !
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 11:14 AM by buddhamama
Armitage was too easy an answer.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:13 AM
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19. It's Fitzmas!!!!!!1
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:00 PM
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25. Oh, geez. Here we go again.
Will it be 24, 36, 48 business hours?

Or 'I can't give you the true story because it must come from the truthout publisher'?

I'll pass, thanks.

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jeffuppy Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:18 PM
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29. The Truthout Town Meeting blog has been pulled
It looks like Truthout has removed their entire Town Meeting blog from thier site, as of last night.
Does anyone know anything about this?

Could this be related to recent posts regarding Leopold and his documents? Does TO not want this information to out on their site for some reason? Pure speculation here.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Welcome to DU, jeffuppy!
:hi:
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jeffuppy Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:41 PM
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33. Thanks!
Looks like I may have to move over here to blog if TO has pulled theirs for good. Glad to be here. :)
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:33 PM
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31. I don't see why he wouldn't break a new Plame story.
The last one was certainly broken.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:52 PM
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36. Sometimes it's just too easy
:rofl:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:46 PM
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34. For my part, I look forward to the discovery of the Northwest Passage.
I just know it's out there someplace.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:18 PM
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37. look ..the rove group have taken down much bigger reporters than Jason!
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 02:19 PM by flyarm
if people here haven't figured that out yet..when will they??

i.e. Mary Mapes, Dan Rather..and then yesterday little lord pissy pants all but setting up David Gregory..by calling him Beautiful, and after ranting and raving at david Gregory..saying ..Next man..Next man..with a gaggle of male and female reporters sitting there...

did no one pick up on that??


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

beginning of press confer....

BUSH: I must say, having gone through those gyrations, you're looking beautiful today, Dave.

end of Q&A by Gregory..by pissy pants...


BUSH: Next man?

QUESTION: This will not endanger...

BUSH: David, next man please. Thank you.




**Jason is chicken feed to the rove slime machine..

fly


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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:49 PM
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38. ba ba ba bullshit
fantasy land
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