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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:25 AM
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The road to "Jesus Camp" is paved from
the following URL, at Election Reform Forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=449427&mesg_id=449427


That thread is called The Economics of ShowMe Vote Suppression !

But don't the title fool you. A mid-thread subplot takes us to "Jesus Camp", filled with some of the scariest children this side of "Lord of the Flies".

The subplot thread starts here: Titled "You know something scary??"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x449427#449468



For those of you with no patience at all, here is the URL of the "Jesus Camp" trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RNfL6IVWCE


But to see the other material (and, possibly, jumpstart your now frozen heart) you will need to go to the thread. Again, URLs are either of these two.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=449427&mesg_id=449427

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x449427#449468


Please share your thoughts on this. Those thoughts are more important than you may know.







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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 03:50 AM
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1. That is seriously fucked up.
What they're doing to those kids is no different than what radical Islamics are doing to their kids. They're ALL fucking nuts and now we're going to have a generation of these little monsters "smiting" people in the name of the lord.

Canada is looking better all the time although it still may be too close to the radical, religious hatred these people are espousing.

What is lacking in these people's psyche that they'd base their lives on a myth? The only learning they crave is about a story fashioned during the Bronze Age. Everything since then is evil and mustn't be believed. I truly feel sorry for these people. To be so myopic, so close minded that they refuse to evolve into rational human beings.

Dear god, please save me from your believers.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:57 AM
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2. Roger that !!
What is lacking in these people's psyche that they'd base their lives on a myth?"

In my experience, the answer seems to be "Reality". <shiver>

When they get these kids hooked into this stuff, they cut them off from all other kids who don't believe the same way, and act exactly like they make their own kids do.

This is supplemented by enforced cultural isolation, constant accompaniament by adults, or, by other members of Yeshua's Youth Cadres, and periodic debriefing and indoctrination, about ten times a day.

They really believe that idle hands (or critically thinking brains) are the Devil's Workshop.

So the answer of what's missing is probably "any original thoughts or, even worse, any questions"!








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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:01 PM
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3. STRONGLY Recommended, galloglas! Thanks!
:kick:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:14 PM
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4. Holy crap!
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:20 PM
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5. THE MANSON FAMILY GOES TO CHURCH!
I was just talking about this on another thread...

Did you know there are TERRITORIAL DEMONS! Demons who possess REGIONS instead of individual people. Now let me guess what this has to do with Iraq. hmmmmm Another thing. What's the difference between "Spiritual Warfare" by the Christians and Jihad by the Muslims. Both of them are a conflict or a struggle with yourself or others, unless taken to extremes which is what we see with Islam. It looks like to me certain FAR rightwing christians have decided to create their own form of EXTREME Jihad. Which is why we are hearing the words "spiritual WARFARE" from troops. The military chaplains should be investigated for promoting this crap.


http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/warfare/...
3. Strategic Level Spiritual Warefare:2 The doctrine called "Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare" (SLSW) is a popular charismatic method of casting out demons from geographical locations or territories. It identifies three levels of demonic control on earth. First, there are "Ground-Level" demons, which possess people. Secondly, "Occult-Level" demons empower witches, shamans, and magicians. Thirdly, "Strategic-Level" demons, the most powerful of the three, are said to rule over certain regions or territories. Their main purpose is to hinder people from coming to Christ. Well known proponents of this teaching are C. Peter Wagner (Engaging the Enemy: How to Fight and Defeat Territorial Spirits) of Fuller Seminary School of World Missions; John Dawson (Taking Our Cities for Christ) of Youth With a Mission; and Frank Peretti (This Present Darkness and Piercing the Darkness).

In the early 1990s, there were a number of citywide gospel campaigns in Latin America. Some of the evangelists attributed their success to days spent wrestling in prayer against the powers of darkness. Author Frank Peretti stirred the imagination of believers with his two early books: This Present Darkness (1986) and Piercing the Darkness (1989). These fictional books demonstrated in graphic and sensational detail the battle of believers with territorial spirits. In the early 1990s, Charismatic leader C. Peter Wagner linked himself with the movement and has been its most vocal spokesman and most prolific writer. Wagner has attributed astonishing claims to the use of spiritual warfare, claiming, for example, "10 million Japanese will come to Christ by the year 2000; it helped to bring down the Berlin Wall and opened Albania to the gospel; it deposed dictator Manuel Noriega; it lowered the crime rate in Los Angeles and broke the power of demons over Japan" (Breaking Strongholds in Your City, 1993, p. 25).

How does one go about breaking territorial dominion? There are a number of detailed steps required. First, seek the name of the ruling spirit and identify its territory. Second, seek the function of demons in a particular area. Thirdly, if demons occupy a neighborhood, then a "Prayer Walk" is required. If the demon controls a city, then a "Praise March" is necessary. If a demon exercises power over a region, then a "Prayer Expedition" is demanded. And if a demon rules in a nation, then a "Prayer Journey" should be carried out. "Spiritual Mapping" is the process of gathering information regarding a region or a people in order to determine the identity and function of the territorial ruler; i.e., the process of discovering the exact location of the demon's domain. The accumulated data is later used in spiritual warfare prayer and intercession. "Identification Repentance" is the practice of discovering the sin and guilt which give the demon a foothold in an area in the first place, and then repenting of that sin to break the grip of demons in an area.

Peter Wagner explains: "Spying out the land is essential when warring for a city … Christians should walk or drive every major freeway, avenue and road of their cities, praying and coming against demonic strongholds over every neighborhood ... Even if you don't see instant results, keep the trumpets blowing … always remember God is not slack concerning His promise; the walls will come down!" (Engaging the Enemy: How to Fight and Defeat Territorial Spirits, p. 98).

The most commonly cited proof of text is Daniel 10:13,20, which is the battle between the prince of Persia and Michael the archangel. The prince of Persia is said to be an example of a Territorial Spirit which can be defeated through the techniques of SLSW. Wagner writes, "This story leaves no doubt that territorial spirits greatly influence human life in all its sociopolitical aspects" (Warfare Prayer, p. 66).

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/warfare/...
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 02:38 PM
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6. Holy shit!!
Those fucking people are insane!!
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