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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:04 PM
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Poll question: People who scribble graffiti and carve into wooden benches
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 09:06 PM by HypnoToad
Personally, there are plenty of legal venues. Including murals on the sides of buildings. It's beautiful and constructive.

Why things have to scribbled on or carved in, I have no idea.

I used to like where I live. Now it's a damn joke.



(edited typo)
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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:12 PM
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1. Who picked freedom?
Nobody is free to vandalize the property of another. The owners of property are free to own stuff without jackasses vandalizing it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:15 PM
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2. Where's the option for "I wish this was something I thought about"? n/t
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:22 PM
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3. Free Speech is threatened by this Administration
We need Graffiti artists, desperately.

We need people like Banksy in the US!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5335400.stm




Artist Banksy targets Disneyland

The figure appeared in Disneyland over the weekend

A life-size replica of a Guantanamo Bay detainee has been placed in Disneyland by "guerrilla artist" Banksy.

http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/index.html
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:33 PM
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4. There's a big difference between Banksy...
... and something like -this-



That's a close up of the "Tree of Life", one of the oldest (400 years) living things in the Middle East (Bahrain, to be exact)...
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:46 PM
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5. I totally agree
But to suggest that people spray painting a wall (that can be painted over) or carving something on a bench (which just states, "I've been here") should be jailed? Well, no, I won't go there.

I saw spray paint last month as I was driving home from work. It read, "Stop America". I so wanted to take a pic of it and post it on DU, but "they" had painted over it by the next day.

So, I'm still voting for Freedom.

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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:05 PM
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6. well congratulations to "they"
more people should be "they".

you want to see that crap, paint it on your own living room wall. carve it on your own dining table.

the real artists represent may be .001% of all the crap. and they could do it legally and make money off of it. but its "cool" to destroy other people's property.

the rest of us should do as much as we can to make sure the vandals realize that it is a complete waste of their time and money to trash other people's property. paint over it immediately. again, again and again. (what is that "just paint over it" remark?)

graffiti is the first step to a slide into the gutter for whole neighborhoods.

:grr: this is obviously a real peeve of mine....
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:07 PM
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7. Option 3: Fine the bastards
Jails're full enough as is, and it's not exactly going to stop that.
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:08 PM
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8. 21 of you people are nuts.
Of all the reasons to stick people in JAIL, you're worried about people who scrawl or carve things on a bench?

Shit, and I thought the Rethugs were authoritarians.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:19 PM
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9. There are worse things to commit (and fining them would be sufficient),
but it is quite a disrespect to do that sort of thing.

It's no better than keying a car.

My ultimate point is, what the fuck is happening to society? Why are these things so tolerated?

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:26 PM
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10. Banksy sez
Is graffiti art or vandalism?
That word has a lot of negative connotations and it alienates people, so no, I don't like to use the word 'art' at all.

http://www.banksy.co.uk/help/index.html
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:36 PM
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11. Vandalism isn't good, but then there are things like this....


Hey, who else is going to get the message out? Not the media...
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:42 PM
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12. Take nothing but pictures,
Leave nothing but footprints.

This is the advice of the National Park Service, but a good idea anywhere.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:43 PM
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13. ... will be immortalized by their graffiti for future archaeologists
basically, what i've learned from archaeology is, if you have something important to say carve it in stone. even if it's not important, but you want the generations to still hear about it, carve it in stone. wood is adequate, but then you need to leave it in a desert or throw it into a bog.

oh... you were asking about something else. so sorry! :blush:
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