Keith Olbermann's on... ought to be an interesting show.

[VolcanoJen]

He's replaying his "Politics of 9/11: A Special Comment" commentary, for those who haven't seen it online yet.

And I can't wait to watch his coverage of Bush's presser today.

[Coexist]

1. "its unacceptable to think"

I like how he keeps repeating that.

[CatWoman]

2. love that line

:D

[doublethink]

13. Thoughtcrime!!!!!!!

yowzaaaaaaaa! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

[CatWoman]

3. now he's showing the David Gregory clip

:)

[VolcanoJen]

4. Tony Snow was having a good laugh in the background, wasn't he?

It's unacceptable to think.

[jazzjunkysue]

5. What a snit. Get the net.

[CatWoman]

6. watching this, I feel so embarrassed for Bush

[VolcanoJen]

9. He's reprehensible.

Bully in a pulpit. Unfuckingbelievable.

Keith's really going after that "unacceptable to think" line. Excellent.

[OwnedByFerrets]

32. His actions and stupid words

have made me come to hate him. I dont say that lightly, but it has come to that. I hate his policies and I hate his bullying. In short, I hate him.

[Coexist]

12. I can't believe anyone thinks he is not a jerk

(Bush not Gregory)

[jazzjunkysue]

16. Yes! It's about making Abu Graib and Gitmo legal! Say it, Keith!

[stop the bleeding]

7. Man I have been under a rock

I had no idea dipshit went off like this today about article III

loony

[calimary]

53. I think he's growing more and more shrill and aggitated because

SOMEBODY, maybe James Baker or somebody else, has mentioned to him that he may very likely be branded a war criminal for pursuing this. And I think it's making him slightly jumpy when he's not getting his nice rubberstamp again - especially on something as crucial as keeping him out of a war crimes tribunal. As is, I'm willing to bet that whenever he leaves office (sooner, hopefully, than later) there will be countries he cannot dare ever fly to again, for fear of being placed under arrest when he hits the ground. I think Kissinger suffers the same fate - really can't leave this country for fear of being arrested overseas in countries that have declared him a war criminal. I think the same fate awaits bush. It'll be moot - he doesn't like to travel. But watch what happens, and how many international people will have to come to him in later years because he won't be able to go to them.

[jazzjunkysue]

8. They obviously only gave him the one "hypothetical" line and

"program not going forward." and the rest he improvised.

[CatWoman]

11. even Howard Fineman is shocked

[SeattleGirl]

10. What an effing, pompous ass Bush was in that!!!!!!

This guy is getting so out of control, it's unbelievable. He has GOT to be stopped!

[jazzjunkysue]

22. His handlers are giving him just enough rope: They know the end is near,.

Let him swing. Stick a fork in him. I'm so outta here.

Remember the last time the whitehouse morale dropped like this? After mission accomplished?

[VolcanoJen]

14. So, is Keith right? Bush is saying he's going to stop fighting terror...

... by shutting down the CIA interrogators, if the Senate doesn't do as he wishes? That he's going to take his ball and go home, as Keith puts it?

That's sure what his response to Gregory sounded like to me.

[SeattleGirl]

17. I thought the same thing.

I'm just stunned by that whole exchange between Bush and David Gregory. Stunned at what Bush was saying. I think Gregory was too, given the look on his face.

[spanone]

15. Bush* is the biggest smart ass I've ever seen.

[VolcanoJen]

18. Fineman on Bush: He's not talking to the people, he's talking to history..

... and to himself. He's making the point that if his presidency goes down, it's going down the way he wants it to."

(speaking about Bush's "anger" in the press conference, in response to Keith's question, "is Bush helping himself by appearing so angry?")

That was quite a shocking admission from Fineman; I think he's spot on.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Yeah, but Finemen's round heels kicked in as this media whore

then instantly flopped on his back to DECLARE, "I think they will reach a compromise."

No compromise! We, The United States of America, don't TORTURE.

Can't Keith get anyone better than Fineman? :grr:

[CatWoman]

19. Jonathan Turley coming up....

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Jonathan Turley up next.

This should be good -- Turley will analyze the legal angle; I'm sure he'll get all over Bush.

[SeattleGirl]

24. Turley is really good.

I can't wait to hear his take on this, either.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

44. We need more spokespeople like him- hearing him really hits home

n/t

[SeattleGirl]

21. The more I think about that exchange between Bush and Gregory,

the angrier I get, NOT at David Gregory, of course, but at Bush. Someone stop me before I start throwing things. I have NEVER seen anything like this from a POTUS.

[janx]

25. Bush doesn't like Gregory.

This has happened before--but not quite to the extent it did today.

[SeattleGirl]

26. Bush doesn't like anyone who questions him, but yes he particularly

doesn't like Gregory.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. I'd guess Gregory isn't real crazy about Bush, either.

Isn't Gregory the reporter who Bush mocked some years ago because he had the gall to speak French to a French politician, in front of Bush?

[janx]

37. YES. n/t

[VolcanoJen]

35. Remember the press conferences with Scotty during Katrina?

Gregory pissed Bush off years earlier when he asked Chirac a question in French, but I'll bet their hatred of him reached new levels when he absolutely skewered Scotty during Hurricane Katrina.

And remember... Gregory, under heat for his "behavior" during that week, ultimately apologized to Scotty.

When Bush called on Gregory today, I was surprised... and then I knew he was in for something.

[janx]

38. Gregory took heat from Snow recently also--

only because he wanted a legitimate answer to a legitimate question.

[IChing]

27. this is gonna be good on constitutional law - with picture

He is covering his backside!!!!!


http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:vImk-7f35B9ImM:

[Coexist]

29. Turley is breaking this down well

"this administration senses something big coming down".

Man, I hope C&L gets this on tapel

[SeattleGirl]

31. So do I. I'd like to watch this several times, so I can get everything

Turley is saying.

[spanone]

33. Absolutely. Bush* is covering his rear. New Gitmo detainees/Red Cross

The Red Cross will interview these new Gitmo detainees and they will find out that we have been waterboarding. Illegal, against the law. War crimes.

[SeattleGirl]

36. I swear, if Congress passes ANYTHING to help Bush get off

the hook on this shit, we truly have turned into that which we despise. Never again can we hold ourselves as a moral authority in the world. Never again can we go after another country for torturing our men and women in the military. The domino effect of this, across the world, would be unspeakably disastrous.

[moondust]

41. Road to The Hague.

Even if * gets his private little self-pardon passed by his private little rubber-stamp Congress, why would the rest of the 194 countries that signed the Geneva Conventions pay any attention to his private little "law"?

Will he go into hiding or to the Hague?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

34. Backside covering.

Turley thinks the 14 Gitmo prisoners will disclose all kinds of mistreatment, in theory subjecting US officials to prosecution. They are more worried about that than the need to get information out of detainees.

Evil fucks.

[jazzjunkysue]

30. Here it is: The truth. "There's alot of trouble coming down this mountain.

Like, violations of genieva conventions and also NSA violations. (Wire taping.)

This is about impeachment and imprisonment.

Keith is the first to say it, as usual.

[ShortnFiery]

39. Further the Democrats should take the following truism and run with it ...

Turley mentioned that TODAY is "Constitution Day" ... the day we celebrate The Rule of Law.

Bush used Constitution Day to argue in favor of Secret Prisons and Torture for ALL he should deem as *terrorists*!

The Democratic Candidates should use this FACT often.

[SeattleGirl]

40. Good idea.

When Turley said that, I got even angrier about what Bush said. I hope the Dems DO use it. I know I will be!

[malaise]

43. Great reminder from Turley n/t

[Pachamama]

56. Actually, Sept. 18th is the official celebration day this year

Sept. 17th 1787 was when the constitution was finalized by the delegates and signed it in Philadelphia. The individual states ratified it later - Delaware if you recall was the first state.

But Turley was trying to definitely point out the irony of the active push that this administration was doing that is an assault on the Constitution and right around the same time we are supposed to be celebrating the Constitution.

The debate and vote on the floor of the Senate will be most likely on Monday...the actual Constitution Day....nice, eh?

[ShortnFiery]

59. Thanks for the Clarification ...

I often find that Liberals and Progressives want the CORRECT information on issues. Therefore, IMO we're more willing to adjust when corrected and/or clarified.

Yes, I wouldn't want to be corrected by a Right Winger ... as if he/she truly knows the history of Our Beloved Constitution. However, one never knows?

Thanks again for keeping us smart. :-) :hi:

[Pachamama]

60. Your welcome!

I agree that more often than not that Liberals/Progressives want facts and the correct info on issues and that many of the conservatives I know are satisfied with half truths on issues. On the otherhand, a Right Winger may be satisfied justifying what they do based on a half truth, but just love to correct a liberal if they have made a mistake. Yes, it is truly ironic that the folks on the conservative side can often seem to think they and they alone are somehow the "guardians of the true meaning behind the Constitution".

I'm glad you didn't take my post as being anything other than what it was - passing on info. I went to the University of Pennsylvania, founded by Benjamin Franklin and I have always and passionately followed Franklin's life and the original signers of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. Going to school in Phillie and also having grown up in Washington DC provided me with great resources.

PS: Here's another "irony": Constitution Day was only 2 years ago signed into law by none other than George W. (it used to be Citizenship Day). But I find that there are so many arrogant things that he and his administration like to do on the very days that are celebrating the opposite of what he announces! Take for example on MLK's B'day a few years back that he announces his administration is going to be arguing against affirmative action in the Univ. of Michigan admissions case in front of the Supreme Court. Or on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade that they announce something that clearly goes against women's reproductive rights. Anyway, the announcement that he wants both torture and rendition allowed as well as his arguments about wiretapping all around "Constitution Day and Week" is ironic, but I often think and believe in their case its actually deliberate.

:hi:

[RebelOne]

42. Really not that interesting right now.

He's covering skinny models. Great story -- NOT!

[CatWoman]

45. He will replay his "Hole in the Ground" commentary

after the commercial break.

Says will include new developments.

[SeattleGirl]

46. I'm very curious as to what the new development are.

[CatWoman]

48. George Pataki vetoed legislation

that would allow free admittance to the 9/11 Memorial

[Coexist]

47. 800,000 emails and letters about his commentary

that has to be a huge record.

[napi21]

50. I'm watching, but I missed the story about the 800,000 emails.

Did he say they asked thathe rerun that comentary? I'm assuming they must have, since that's what he's doing tonight.

[doublethink]

49. Great ..... gotta pay to get into the 911 memorial .....

if and whenever it gets built.

[VolcanoJen]

51. Keith's comments after the replay:

"And remember, since then, this President has now told us that it is unacceptable to think."

[SalmonChantedEvening]

54. No doubt that statement

Is based on bunnypant's personal experience.

[napi21]

52. Ooooo, yet another SMACK upside your head, Mr. President.

[Zomby Woof]

55. Watched is just now!

He is off his nut, far more than usual. He needs a straight jacket and a visit from Nurse Ratched.

[chat_noir]

57. video up on You Tube

rate it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3QsL2hbXI

Top rated video this date/hour

[lonestarnot]

58. cool. I tried to watch last evening but kept getting interrupted.