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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:46 PM
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Does anyone think that gas prices have been lowered because of Elections?
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 04:50 PM by Raydawg1234
You have to admit that this drop in gas prices comes at a pretty convenient time for Republicans. Out is not out of the realm of possibilities that corporate big shots colluded to drop prices, knowing that a Democratic Congress will not help it's business interests.


You watch, prices will go back up after the elections.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:48 PM
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1. Um, do you mean "because of"?
"In lieu of" means "instead of" and I am sure you don't mean that gas prices have been lowered in order to replace elections! :-)
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:49 PM
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5. thanks, guess i used the wrong term
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:51 PM
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8. Thanks for the clarification
And to reply to your OP, I would say that I would not be surprised in the least were it to be proven.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:48 PM
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2. Is the pope catholic? Does a bear shit in the woods? n/t
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:52 PM
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10. Don't ask Bush he will think its a psych test
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:49 PM
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3. Just like they go down when their is an invesitgation for price gouging
maybe a hurrican or Iran will be the excuse after the election. The real question is how soon after the election - 1 week, 2 week, 1 month, 1 day :)
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:49 PM
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4. Is the pope Catholic?
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NiteOwll Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:50 PM
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6. BINGO!
We have a winner! :)

It'll be 4 bucks a gallon the day after the elections.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:51 PM
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7. interpreting your jist
Oh hell yeah.

That's as why when the republican members of the house put out a memo taking credit for falling gas prices I agreed with them. The credit is theirs. Their corporate masters are doing them a favor as they know it will work for them in the long run.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:51 PM
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9. Absolutely gas prices are down due to the upcoming elections.
There's no doubt about it. And there's no doubt in my mind this is all orchestrated by the GOP. And unfortunately, many Americans will be stupid enough to fall for it. And they are often the ones hurt the most by high gas prices.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:52 PM
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11. Actually...
I think a lot us were feed up with the way energy prices are going and played musical homes so that we could get by without relying on the vehicle to get there. I know I have averaged 17 miles a week for the last year by moving away from the grocery store and down into the middle of where I used to always drive to. If I have to go somewhere, I'll peddle the bike first. A year ago I spent approximately $400/month on gas. I haven't even bought any fuel in the last two months.
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freedom_please Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:56 PM
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12. Yes, here's the proof of gas prices ties to election cycles
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 05:04 PM by freedom_please
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:23 PM
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27. you can prove or disprove anything with statistics
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 05:24 PM by onenote
Here's what makes me suspicious of these kinds of arguments. Am I to believe that the oil industry dropped prices in 1996 because they wanted Clinton re-elected?

The most detailed chart of retail gas prices I've seen is here: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/mg_rt_usw.htm

Now, you can probably parse through those numbers to prove anything. For example, take the type of unleaded regular sold most commonly throughout the US and compare retail price at the end of May to the end of October. From 1991 through 2005, the price was down in even number years four times and up three times. In odd number years it was down five times and up twice. A pattern? Maybe.

But then consider the following: if the price was being manipulated to impact the election,there would be no need to keep in low after the election. Yet, six out of the last odd numbered years, the price of gas at the end of January was lower than it was the week before the election, meaning that the price continued to drop.

So, maybe the world is a bit more complicated.
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muesa Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:57 PM
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13.  I worked in a
lab "across the street" from the "Oil Patch" -- and taught at the college "down the highway" from the "Oil Patch" - for about 40 years -- I think I know the "Oil Patch" (engineering)--Just observing-- Did you ever notice how the cartelized, administered price, arrived at in parallel, is just low enough to keep most alternative fuels on the cusp of being uneconomical/unprofitable?

Now even Fischer Tropsch (gasoline from coal), biodiesel, and ethanol are on the cusp of economic viability -- and are technologically feasible. So the price at the pump suddenly drops.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:57 PM
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14. Umm, I'd say
because of the elections. I've been saying that for days now. Seems suspicious to me.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:58 PM
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15. bushitler energy pals political favors of course. Pisses me off
more than paying the higher prices.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:58 PM
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16. Of course!
Bush's little Saudi friends have upped production.

It amazes me that Republicans will now give credit to the falling gas prices to Bush. It's true in a way, but the sad part is that all of this has just been manipulation to make Bush look better.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 04:59 PM
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17. I've been saying it would happen for months.
Oil men in the WH? Hello? ;-)
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:01 PM
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18. does anyone think that's not the reason?
If so, I've got some great land in the Mojave I'll sell you cheap.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:01 PM
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19. The MSM says it's because the "summer" is over with blah blah blah.
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 05:01 PM by Nutmegger
But those controlling the spigot want Repukes elected...
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:01 PM
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20. Absolutely. The chimp only tells his buds to open the spigots
in the months leading up to an election.
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whiterabbit76 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:01 PM
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21. Very interesting....
does anyone else recall the Alaskan pipeline being shut down in July? If my memory serves me the loss of the pipeline was supposed to result in even higher crude oil prices... I guess the Greedy Oil Party is out of tricks and running scared!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:03 PM
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22. Must be a coincidence
that's all, really.


:sarcasm:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:09 PM
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23. Not only is this happening, most of us KNEW it would happen.
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annarbor Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:16 PM
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24. In the Ann Arbor Michigan Area...
Gas was $3.15 a gallon THREE WEEKS AGO.
Today, same station, $2.19!

Have we miraculously stabilized things in the Middle East?
Did BP stabilize that broken oil line in Alaska?

I call nothing but bullshit on these recent prices.
Frankly, I think that Bush and his friends took advantage of us for an entire year and made millions, if not billions in profits by convincing us that we better get used to spending $2+ dollars for a gallon of gas.

I think that it will be well under $2.00 come late October.

Ann Arbor
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:58 PM
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33. Yeah, big oil has been ripping us off since Bush took office.
Record profits, $3.00+ gallons of gas. They've looted our wallets and purses while Bush sat by and watched. Now they're hoping we forget the brutal gas prices in time for the election.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:21 PM
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25. Does a bear shit in the woods?
Of course the prices are being lower because of the election. The sheeple may just fall for it again---
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:21 PM
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26. gas prices
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 05:22 PM by spag68
I agree that they play musical prices to fit their agenda, but being retired gives me time to watch much early morning tv. IMHO there is a glut of oil floating around out there and sooner or later it has to go somewhere. Some analysts have been saying this for months, but the speculators have covered the voices to continue to make money by shuffling paper.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:48 PM
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28. I just wish there were a way to prove it
Bush's rating are inversely proportional to the gas prices. When they go up his approval goes down. I wish the American people would come out swinging. There ought to be a law against raising and lowering prices to make one party look better in order to win elections. Can you imagine if a Democrat did that? We just don't hold the righteous indignation cards that they do.
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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:14 PM
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30. still paying 2.80
in utah because they don't have to lower them here for the republicans to win elections .
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:13 PM
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29. Dammit, everyone beat me to it...
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 06:14 PM by devilgrrl
the bears joke that is.... OF COURSE THEY'RE BEING LOWERED FRO THE ELECTIONS!
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:55 PM
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31. There's no question about it.
Barrels of oil are only down to $67 or so, a drop of less than 10%, yet gasoline pump prices have dropped by about 1/3 around Detroit. The GOP doesn't want the prices of gas to be an issue on election day, so VOILA! I'll bet gas is down to $1.50 by election day.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:57 PM
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32. YUP!
n/t
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:25 PM
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34. After the huge profits of the last couple of years
You can bet your ass the oil companies are more than happy to forgo some short term profit for the long term gain they can realize under the Repubs.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:26 PM
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35. Yes, of course. Gone from $2.89 to $2.11 and lower within a month?
Definitely.
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