What's the best way to handle a Christian Republican in the workplace?

[icymist]

I have to work with this guy, who, at times, likes to talk (at length) about war games and his involvement. This guy never seemed a threat until last night when he started going on about AFA and the Gays and how "they (AFA) brought down Ford" through boycott. When I asked about Ford getting bad publicity through the last five years for the Firestone tires blowing out on their SUV's, well I got a lot of discussion about how the Gays were trying to grasp more than they were meant to....so on and so forth! I have to work wit h this guy at least every week. This is in a nursing home and this jerk has already 'informed' me that all somebody has to do is complain that "abuse" 'might' have occurred and I would then be out of a job until "the investigation was complete"! :eyes: Should I just blow this guy off and watch him from a distance?

[shadowknows69]

1. Several brands of baseball bats leap to mind

n/t

[John Gauger]

11. Violence is not the answer.

It never is.

[shadowknows69]

27. very true

but in my darkest fantasies it feels good. We all have some of the beast within us.

[icymist]

35. Yes. But I do not wish that beast here.

I work in a nursing home. There's other people to consider. But, yeah, that would best feel good! Bang Bang Maxwells Hammer....

[left is right]

49. As a resident of the Louisville Metro area

I must inform you that there is only one brand of bat and that is the "LOUISVILLE SLUGGER" but I understand they have several models

[bif]

2. Beat the snot out of him

[LeftyMom]

3. With Hazmat gloves?

No really, I would document the threat of a false complaint with management and then stay as far away from the freak as possible.

[Tesla]

6. Avoid him like the plague he is!

[don954]

30. definitely file a report about the threat

it may be the only thing to save your but in the future.

[RevCheesehead]

4. what does his being Christian have to do with his behavior?

Your post says nothing about his religion, or how he uses it. :shrug:

[icymist]

16. He's sly. The original talk began about what sort of Truck I should buy.

I mentioned that Ford had recently announced that half of it's workforce would soon be laid off. His reply was "Good! The AFA boycott is working!" When I asked about what the AFA was, the Christian part was put into play by his going on that Ford "Had this coming" for it's 'Practices to wards recognizing Gays very "loudly" and allowing their partnerships'. Believe you and me, the Christian thing was brought up by him.

[RevCheesehead]

20. Oh, OK.

I didn't catch that in your post. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah, if he's reading the Wildmons' shit, he's a piece of work.
If he persists in his bigotry and crap, I'd report him to a supervisor.

[achtung_circus]

5. I've got one in my truck I'll loan you.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

7. Is This A Superior Or Someone You Work Closely With?

I have a secretary who is also a MORON repub Christian FOLLOWER. I have grown to just ignore her and say I'm too busy to bother discussing such BS.

What I would rather do when I hear her SPINNING is call her a MORON to her face, laugh and go about my business. If this is not someone you have to deal with regularly, I'd suggest that. Tell them they're gullible, and a brainwashed follower, and you don't have time to waste listening to them spew garbage.

[WestHoustonDem]

8. You definitely should keep your distance, but you may

also want to consider going on the record with someone in HR that you feel threatened by his statement.

Some workplaces have rules about discussing politics and religion. You should check in to that.

[Parche]

9. krishtun republican

I feel your pain, I have this female same
She is nice and all, but doesnt get it
Tells of all the right wing 'talking points'all the time
The same old crap how they are scared of terra ists
They dont mind losing their 4th amendment rights so Bush can spy on them....etc

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. I'd report him.

Denigrating homosexuals sounds like a hostile work environment to me.

[rurallib]

14. Agreed - I guess i would probably warn him first.

[Flirtus]

24. No, don't warn him, you can report privately

I've had to deal with flat tires after a long shift because of my big mouth. Don't let on, but make the complaint to HR. And try to not get into any more conversation that makes you uncomfortable. The work environment should be neutral ground, where your opinion on politics is just as private as any others, but if he's made threats make sure somebody knows.

[Realityhack]

51. I agree.

Report it. And re-report every time. Create a paper trail.

[Divernan]

12. His threat to you works both ways. All "somebody" (you) have

to do is complain that "aubse" "might" have occurred and he would then be out of a job until the investigation is complete. However, if you have a personnel office, I would tell them you have been
threatened by this guy that he would file a bogus complaint against you. You could also request a policy statement to employees that everyone should refrain from political comments in the work place.
What is "AFA"?

(I think you meant to type "threat", not "treat", right?

[icymist]

22. AFA is some (so called) Christian group. They, unfortunatly, have websites

These, this guy claims, are sent to him unsolicited. Bull!!

[niyad]

23. afa--american family association--total reichwing fundy freaks

[Niche]

13. There's no debating with the hard core. If it bothers you ask him

to keep his comments to himself. What's the deal with his "threats"? I worked with republican freaks and I wore peace buttons and Kerry buttons... ever so subtle on my purse... just to f*ck with them.

[Spiffarino]

15. Taser. n/t

[liberal N proud]

17. Ignore him, you will never get him to see the truth

He has been told that the ancient book that he opens on Sunday mornings is the truth and the way and the light. Then they tell him that he must remain faithful and that people will throw stones at him.
His mind has been totally cleaned of the ability to think for himself. You will never get anywhere with him.

I know, I have dealt with these idiots at work. I don't even acknowledge them unless I need something from them because every time you talk to them the just go into their little I'm the way messages, trying to save your soul.

Now if I am totally bored yet pissed off at what the Reich Wing has been doing, I will poke them with some facts just to raise their blood pressure, then I leave them in isolation for a long time again.
Today I did just that. I fired off a little fact about the cost of investigating Clinton and his little BJ vs the 9/11 investigation. Two line is all I wrote. I got back a mega email full of the Republican talking points straight from Bill Oreally himself or so they sounded.
I did poke him all day then until he tried to blame 9/11 on Clinton and claim that the Clinton administration did nothing to prevent terrorism. Then I unloaded on him with facts and told him to go home and read that this weekend instead of the Good Book. Then invited him to prove otherwise to me on Monday.

Monday will come and I will not give him the satisfaction of acknowledging his response regardless.

[icymist]

45. Thank you. Yours is some of the best advice I've read yet.

I have to work with this guy in nursing. (This is to everyone here) Just because it's nursing, all the rules have been changed. It may not do me all that good to go to the Director Of Nursing, explaining that this guy may say these things, for I may very well find myself without a livelihood until it's cleared up. I'm one awful good nurse, have been a CNA for over sixteen years, and can play this political game they play. I have never came upon someone playing war-games while professing fundie teachings, like this guy before. I'm just not sure how to handle him.

[yellowcanine]

18. Tell him you have a recording of him threatening you. Let him stew on

that for awhile. Put notes on his car written by a secret admirer who has the hots for him. Don't get caught. Find out what annoys him and then do those things. Act innocent.

[icymist]

26. LOL!

No! Not me! The Goddess would never do that! :evilgrin:

[nealmhughes]

19. Try a few Jesus quotes: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

If that doesn't work, they "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to God that which is God's." "Judge not lest ye be judged," is good too as is the sermon on the mount.

The other is the direct antireligious approach of: "How quaint! But I guess we are all entitled to our tribal superstitions and customs...as long as you don't try to foist them upon others..."

[stanwyck]

25. Exactly. I out Bible the fundies all the time

leaves them sputtering.
Amazing how many haven't read The Bible. Like our own Lynn Westmoreland here in Georgia who wanted to mandate the display of the Ten Commandments in public buildings...except he couldn't name more than 3. And he was a little shaky on those.

[KansDem]

21. Try wearing a necklace of garlic cloves...

It should keep him away, but could also cut down on your social life...

[icymist]

31. I could see me now trying to navigate stairs!

Bright sid is I could always make a killer spaghetti sauce!

[last1standing]

28. Definitely report him for threatening you.

That's the first and most important step you can take. Then, start a dated journal detailing both his threat and the report you made to your superiors making sure they know you are keeping this journal. After that, feel free to disagree with this asshole anytime you like but record any threatening or harassing remarks he makes. After each occurrence give a copy of the entry to your superior and ask them what can be done to alter this threatening/harassing environment. Unless your superior is a complete idiot, they will see that your co-worker is quickly removed. If he/she is an idiot, then they will make your life hard which is where your journal will really come in handy. Workplace intimidation is illegal and the suit you can lay on the company will not only end the harassment but their jobs as well.

Good luck.

[Divernan]

44. Keeping the DATED journal is excellent advice -

When you copy it to your supervisor, tell him/her (in writing also) to keep a copy of it in your personnel file. You COULD even tell them you checked with a lawyer friend (that would be me) who advised you to do this. You might express your concern that this guy is forcing his political opinions and religious beliefs on residents of the nursing home (by speaking loudly to you in front of one or more of them) and you are concerned they may be upset.

Let us know how this works out.

[blogslut]

29. Here's what I would do

But please remember, I'm not a nice person.

Wait until the two of you are in earshot of the management. Then say very loudly:

"If you ever threaten me again, I'll report you."

:)

[sweetheart]

32. fingers to the neck

A straight fingered jab to the throat will kill, and you might break a finger. that's if
your life is threatened, and otherwise, smile and kiss their ass because your life is
not threatened and as long as you're being paid enough, smile. If you need 'christian' pay,
then let the boss know its become a bit stuffy.

[tulsakatz]

33. no one brought Ford down..........

...except Ford!! They built SUVs that consumed more gas. When people discovered how much it cost to fill them up, they reconsidered their purchases.

And that's what brought Ford down!

I don't know what to advise you about the guy, it almost sounds like he was threatening you....

[ieoeja]

34. F^ck 'em!

That is if they're same gender.

:evilgrin:

[RangerSmith]

36. Start your own company

and run ads saying you will hire only employees who agree with certain schools of thought and then list them in order of importance.

[icymist]

41. Yeah, right! Like that would solve anything.

I'm not trying to not get along with a 'certain school of thought', but trying to just survive in a workplace environment that is bombarding me with Right Wing, Theocratic propaganda through my, not just peers, but work environment superiors. Tell me, what list of importance would YOU place in getting a job that don't dictate what religion should dominate discussions?

[RangerSmith]

65. Honestly,

My response wasn't really directed at you... your post was pretty open about trying to get along in a very tough situation.

My comment was kind of a flippant response to some of the responses you were getting that crossed the same old same old line of .... it's OK for our side, but not their side... BS that runs so rampant anymore.

Sorry, I certainly don't envy you. I'm a Texan and I'm surrounded by those that would make this place a theocracy if they could... believe, I know of what you speak.

[alfredo]

37. tongs and an oven mitt

[democrat_patriot]

38. Garlic, Silver and a Mirror?

[hatrack]

39. Hang an upside-down crucifix on your office door, drool fake blood . . .

Perhaps adopting a Rob Zombie-esque dress code and facial hair would also help.

:evilgrin:

[Swamp Rat]

40. Gather as much information about him as you can, call an attorney,

THEN, report him.

DO NOT TELL HIM! Do not engage in any more conversations with him.

[icymist]

47. Thank you Swamp Rat.

I think I'll contact Uncle Sepp soon.

[The Gunslinger]

42. Play Slayer CD's ...............real loud.

[Zodiak]

66. ahhh yes, Death Metal....

When I was a teenager, I was the only house on the street that wouldn't get a visit from the local Southern Baptist church on Saturdays. And I owe it all to Slayer (Saturday was bass playing day at the Zodiak house).

[Missy Vixen]

43. Talk to HR

>This is in a nursing home and this jerk has already 'informed' me that all somebody has to do is complain that "abuse" 'might' have occurred and I would then be out of a job until "the investigation was complete"<

This is a threat. If they do not act, start keeping notes with time, date, what was said, and any witnesses.

This clown is creating a hostile work environment. You deserve a place to work that is threat-free.

Julie

[Sydnie]

48. I agree with you Julie

Document, document, document. And talk to HR about his threat.

[Mz Pip]

46. "Thou shalt not bear false witness.."

comes to mind. So this "Christian" Republican would make something up about you if you cross him.

Is there any way to just avoid him? HE soulds like a real piece of work, not worth intereacting with on any level.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[yella_dawg]

50. Take a page from the loonie's book

and make an abuse complaint.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. Tell him that you heard Bush is gay.

[IChing]

53. Take him Waterboarding the latest Republican sport

He can go first

[FiveGoodMen]

54. Some kind of untraceable poison in their coffee?

[lonestarnot]

56. eeeeyikes. care there conspiracy to commit hairy kairy is not

something you can get away with as Sgt Mike is watching.

[FiveGoodMen]

57. Purely hypothetical. It's not MY coworker.

And Hara-Kiri is something you do to yourself.

But I get your point.

[lonestarnot]

59. Yes, looks like you got my point precisely. LOL

[lonestarnot]

55. No, you should discuss this with your employer. He sounds just

like the type that would abuse an old person when nobody is around. Did they do background checks there? What if you have a bedridden gay person in his care? Fuckwad needs thrown out on his ass.

[sendero]

58. I'll be starting a new job...

.. soon and a big challenge will be to not get into a shouting match with anyone over politics.

It is going to be tough, but I have no choice. I am not capable of being civil with morons who insist on repeating their bullshit.

So I will have to learn to 1) avoid the wingers and 2) walk away :)

[TheGriz]

60. Let him be.

Noting the nature and time of his "threat" is an excellent idea. Don't tell him, if he chooses to do that sort of thing, let him dig his own grave, as it were.

Beyond that, he is free to hold and express his views.

Frankly I'm a bit surprised that people here would joke about hurting someone because of their political ideology.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

61. Follow the advice of Patrick Whatsishisname in "Road House".

"Be nice".

It was a crap movie, but that one line is possibly the most valuable advice I've ever been given. You'll achieve nothing by arguing with this guy except to ruin both your days, so be nice, and don't get into fights with him.

[FooFootheSnoo]

62. first let your d.o.n. know about this

and then, become very annoying to him. "out Christian" him. Give him a t-shirt at Christmas time with a sequinced Crucifix on it and a card that tells him how happy you are for his "witness". Do it on front of the rest of the staff so that he's embaressed by it. Then, follow him around for several weeks asking why he doesn't wear it. Ask him to pray with you constantly, especially when he's very busy. Start bringin copies of "Guns 'n Ammo" to work. Ask him when he's going to take you out on "maneuvers". Loudly tell the rest of the staff how you and he are "best friends, just like brothers". Ask him if he wants to come on a protest march with you and the Phelps gang. Constantly ask him questions about politics and when he responds, gaze at him like he's the bestest teacher you've ever had. Tell everyone how he should go into politics because he's so smart. Start subtley(sp) or he'll be suspicious. But, if you play your cards right he'll be so annoyed by you that he'll leave.

[The Straight Story]

63. Reminds me of what I told an old boss of mine, joked about firing me

I worked for a japanese auto company (subsidiary) and the one japanese fellow used to mess with me a lot (It was all fun). So one day we are sitting down for lunch, just the two of us as we had missed the scheduled lunch.

He said: "What you do if I fire you." And smiled at me.

I replied: "I am a crazy american, I will come in here with a gun and take all of you out." without laughing.

He nearly choked then said "Ok, good enough for me, I keep you."

For a brief moment when I said that I think he believed me :)

[and-justice-for-all]

64. Not time to be passive with these morons....Fight fire with fire!

"Gays trying to graps more then they were meant to.!!" Fuck that bastard! Equal Rights and fair treatment is not 'trying' to grasp more then we are suppost to. He is either in the closet and bitter he cant come out or does not have the balls too or he is a bigot fuck who needs a good ass beating!

If he pulls that shit on you about if some even mentioned 'abuse', just tell him 'Yeah, well I will just say your stealing medication.'