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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:19 AM
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to amend the Geneva Convention
All nations that signed would need to agree upon the amendment. It is not ours to amend. Am I correct?
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:21 AM
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1. That's what I thought too
Silly me, thinking one country can't just go and unilaterally change a treaty.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:21 AM
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2. yep
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:22 AM
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3. I believe that's correct.
It would not seem possible that one nation could make changes without all the others agreeing to it.

Perhaps Bush would just like to do away with the Geneva Convention completely...
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:22 AM
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4. That's correct
It is an international treaty - a legal contract among nations.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:22 AM
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5. Yes, you are correct.
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 11:25 AM by displacedtexan
And if anyone you know needs Article #3 "clarified," I suggest reading this.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:24 AM
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6. We already "amended" the anti-proliferation treaty, the UN Charter,
etc. etc. Might makes right...right? :crazy:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:38 AM
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7. Not only that, but it's a treaty and as such
becomes a part of our constitution. In order to change it, it would have to be done as any changes in our constitution are done...that's just my opinion. Any lawyers out there with thoughts on this?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:39 AM
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8. yes
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:40 AM
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9. Bush will just have Rove write him a Signing statement
to....uh...sign.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:40 AM
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10. He doesn't want to amend it, wants to "clarify" it.
Claiming it's vague, we'd have a law that would pertain to the US alone that would further explain the Geneva Conventions section pertaining to torture. :silly:
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:46 AM
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12. He wants to keep his sorry ass out of the Hague
He said as much yesterday when he said the secret prisons couldn't continue unless his bill went through because agents could be tried for war crimes. He is the agent in chief.

Foreign nations are already speaking out against any re-interpretation of the Geneva Conventions.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:41 AM
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11. Of course, but Bush doesn't want to amend it.
He wants the US to create its (i.e. *his*) own standard. He wants to clarify Article III out of relevance to the US.
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