Bush: Strong Boarders are Important, Yet HE is letting 15,000 Wahabis in..

[Montagnard]

During the today's press conference, Bush just said that Congress needs to bring security to the boarder. At the same time he is letting in 15,000 Saudis in the country. This joke of a president is dangerous!

Thousands of students from Saudi Arabia are enrolling on college campuses across the United States this semester under a new educational exchange program brokered by President Bush and Saudi King Abdullah.

The program will quintuple the number of Saudi students and scholars in the United States by the academic year's end. And big, public universities from Florida to Oregon are in a fierce competition for their tuition dollars.

The kingdom's royal family -- which is paying full scholarships for most of the 15,000 students -- says the program will help stem unrest at home by schooling the country's brightest in the American tradition. The State Department sees the exchange as a way to build ties with future Saudi leaders and young scholars at a time of unsteady relations with the Muslim world.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060910-122200...

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[Montagnard]

3. History is the only instructor

History tells me that Saudi Arabia is the state that sponsors Wahabism and the state that the majority of 911 hijackers came from. That history. Now you tell me that Jordain students are coming fine, you tell me Syrian students are coming fine. This is not any more anti-hysteria than say the reaction against the port deal.

[Tom Joad]

4. The port deal was another example of anti-Arab hysteria.

[The Magistrate]

11. And A Very Useful Popular Reaction It Was, Sir

It is one of the reasons the present regime's approval ratings have dropped, and the feeling among out people is widespread that the Republicans are not really interested in protecing, or competent to protect, the country from its enemies. This is the main reason Democratic prospects in the coming election are looking up. You consider a Congressional victory for the Democrats a good thing, do you not, Sir?

[Tom Joad]

12. I believe in not using people as pawns, in not whipping up hysteria

and hate.

You believe in Democrats winning elections. To each their own.

[The Magistrate]

13. Your Meaning Is Unclear, Sir

By saying "to each their own" in reference to my commitment to Democratic candidates winning elections, is it your meaning that that is not a desire you share? That would be the plain meaning of your words that most people would take away from reading them.

[Tom Joad]

14. By not saying anything about opposing whipping up hysteria and hate,

is it your meaning that that is not a desire you share?
That would be the plain meaning of your words that most people would take away from reading them.

[The Magistrate]

17. Hysteria Is Often Quite Useful, Sir

Masses of people are moved by emotion, and that is powerful emotional tool. It is the firection people are moved to that concerns me, not the means that gets them going. People are far more reliably moved to action against something than for it, and so anger and hate are the common tools of competent political work. The object is not strike poses of moral purity; it is to get people to do particular things.

And your reluctance to answer a simple, clear question continues to interest me. You have suggested that you do not share my view that it is of importance to secure the victory of Democratic Party candidates: is that the case? Your views on hate and hysteria are beside the point of that question, and so an answer along the lines "not if done by X means" will really not do....

[JCMach1]

2. This is cronyism of the worse type...

What about deserving students from the rest of the Arab world...

[Tom Joad]

5. On what basis do you say that all these students are "Wahabis"?

[Montagnard]

7. Logic

It is a reasonable assumption that the Royal Family will only send Wahabis since that is the sanctioned state religion.

[wildbilln864]

8. WEll Tom,

I heard and maybe it's because Wahhabism is the only religion that's legal there! Duh!

[wildbilln864]

6. This should be all over the news media!

Kick and recommended!
Lets kick this up!

[wildbilln864]

9. the link no longer works, the page has been removed...

WTF?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Oh no!

The last thing wahabis need is an education!

:scared:

[HamdenRice]

15. "Strong boarders" = "Powerful tenants"?

Does anyone really want really strong boarders? Suppose you need to evict them and they resist? You'll have to call the police or get some even stronger person to throw them out.

And big strong people, including strong boarders, eat a lot, and boarders, as opposed to tenants usually get their meals as part of "room and board." So I would definitely oppose "strong boarders".

Oh, wait! You mean "strong borders", as in the Rio Grande?

Never mind!

-- the spelling police

[Tom Joad]

16. Bad spelling, a useless link, and what value does this post have?

[The Magistrate]

18. That Question, Mr. Joad, Is Asked By Someone Of Just About Any Post....

What is anything worth, when you get down to it?

"What, after all, is man, but a device for turning with infinte artfulness the wine of Shiraz into urine?"