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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:15 AM
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Is it just me... Spinach scare!
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 08:26 AM by Roxy66
I'm not sure, but the fear that is being projected into our households over the e-coli in Spinach---and telling everyone (stores, restaurants, etc.) to throw out their produce seems so over the top, considering the other pressing issues of our country losing it's soul (Torture ok?) Not saying that it's not important, but man tone it down a bit....Panic, panic, panic!----terra, terra, terra!
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:17 AM
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1. terra in the spinich! terra in the spinich! run for your lives! nt
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hashibabba Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:20 AM
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3. Well, since e coli can kill you and has killed at least one
person, I'd be happy to know it if I had spinach in my 'fridge.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:24 AM
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8. Like I said... it's important, just dont freak everyone out
e-coli is everywhere...what do you think most stomach flu is (different strains)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:19 AM
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2. This is some series stuff!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:21 AM
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4. It is actually good advice if you don't know where the spinach came from.
Ecoli is nothing to fool around with. Excercising common sense regarding food safety and disregarding the terra wolf cryers are not mutually exclusive behaviors.
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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:23 AM
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5. What are you gonna do?
Buy duct tape?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:23 AM
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6. While you're kidding around, go and get your bag of Spinach and
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 08:27 AM by Texas Explorer
put it down your disposal or throw it out.

Serious. Doesn't matter where you got it. If it is contaminated and you eat it, despite the warnings, it could KILL you.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:24 AM
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7. I know two people who have been hospitalized
in the last couple of weeks with "stomach flue" the both eat out a lot. Now I find myself wondering if it was the spinach in their salads that made them sick.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:30 AM
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13. Could be. Norwalk Virus is also endemic in our society.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:26 AM
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9. I think you always have some people who panic about damn near
anything! Heck,if you've ever been in the South when the weather man says "possible snow flurries" you'd know that!

As far as the spinich; last year, I believe it was lettuce or green onions, or some such item that was found to have some contaminate and was removed from all fast food burgers for a while.

I think it's important that suspect problemsbe announced to the public, mainly to protect those people who are already in fragile health, and could be seriously harmed or die fromsuch an exposure, but don't ever expect the constant panicers not to show upand be very vocal.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:37 AM
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18. Bread, milk, peanut butter and canned soup!!!
LOL, these are the main staples upon threat of snow flurries.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:44 AM
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23. You forgot one thing...toilet paper! I never understood THAT one!
I moved from the north east to the south 20 years ago, andI'm constantly amused bythis snow panic. I understand the milk & bread thing, but "toilet paper"????
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:27 AM
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10. Umm, the advice I heard was "Cook it or throw it out"
That seems like a pretty reasonable course of action to me,
and "cooking it" is probably what we'll do with our bag of
spinach.

Tesha
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:28 AM
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11. I think you could wash it really well and cook it instead.
n/t
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:29 AM
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12. I thought it was interesting that it could grow into the roots...
out of the soil, where washing would do no good.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:31 AM
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15. Definitely.
This is not a new problem. Don't assume that any greens (bagged or not) are safe. Always wash them!

Cooking is recommended--but not for lettuce...
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:31 AM
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14. We had a scare about salads at the Sheetz Stores
in the the Pittsburgh area a couple years ago and a local company that supplied some of their salads was only suspect and it put them into bankruptcy a couple hundred people lost their jobs, it turned out the e-coli came from scallions imported from Mexico.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:33 AM
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16. My husband was running a 102 temperature,
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 08:34 AM by fasttense
throwing up and had the runs. We thought it was just the flue. He is better now, but he lost a lot of weight. He loves spinach and we had it in a salad about five days ago. I've since thrown it all out. Funny, though I ate it, I didn't get sick at all.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:36 AM
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17. West Nile is a Pandemic..notice it's out of the news....
I have West Nile...I live in Eastern Oregon (on the border of Idaho) and everyone you talk to seem to have the same symptoms. Mostly a horribly itchy rash that lasts for weeks. It's the headaches you need to worry about.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:39 AM
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19. yeah 20,000 people die each in the USA each year from the flu
The press likes to go nuts over certain stories so they dont have to deal with reality.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/163/2/181
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:39 AM
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20. E. coli is nothing to sneeze at - recommendation is a good one.
It would be irresponsible to NOT report about E. coli infected spinach and those who are sick. Everyone should throw away their bags of spinach to keep others from becoming sick.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:40 AM
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21. Breaking: Popeye Responds
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 08:42 AM by ronnykmarshall


"Oh fucks it, I'm just gonna dancek".
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:41 AM
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22. I know who's behind this.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:44 AM
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24. This one seems legitimate
It only takes one sick employee to contaminate an entire lot of bagged produce. And between a very tight labor market and the utter lack of healthcare for employees, it is no surprise that a worker -- maybe a picker or someone in the factory itself -- was handling foodstuffs when s/he should have been at home in bed, thus contaminating the spinach.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:53 AM
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25. Considering there are over 73,000 cases of e coli infection per year
which is 200 per day -- this warning seems vague and overblown. From the AP story it is hard to tell if they have tested a single bag of spinach for e coli. And they are not asking for people who are sick and suspect spinach to bring the spinach for testing.

In the past e coli outbreaks have been definitively linked to Jack in the Box hamburgers and Dole prepackaged salads but there is no similar source data for this warning.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Tainted-Spinach.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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