Everything Will Be Lost To The Great Iran Attack Noise Machine

[cali]

Debate on the Patriot Act. Abramoff, tax cuts, Alito, NSA and other government spying, and so much more. Iran's going to drown out everything. And if bushco does attack, the repercussions are mind boggling. I just don't see how we fight this anymore.

[Hubert Flottz]

1. We can't win!

I think they want to destroy this country. The world bankers have big plans for their world takeover and the United States of America stands in their way. The neocons want no borders!

[H2O Man]

2. 85%

of the administration recognizes that the USA is not in a position to attack Iran now. But that other 15%, along with a few friends in the ME, are advocating an insane approach. It is not necessary to have their approach drown out the other symptoms of their disease.

[Mutley]

3. I just don't think another war will fly.

People in general are aware of what a mess Iraq has become, and I don't think they'll buy the WMD BS again this time. They know we are stretched to our limits in Iraq as it is. How will we get enough troops to invade Iran? Where will the money come from? Maybe it's just the optimist in me, but I don't think the public will go for it this time.

[cali]

4. Just a week or so ago

I would have agreed with you. Two things have changed my mind. One is this report that Iran plans a nuke test in March (which I think is total bullshit), the other is pols on the talk shows saying we can handle an attack on Iran. I don't think the administration cares much whether Americans buy into an attack, though they'll ceratainly do their best to scare the populace out of any rational thought.

[Mutley]

7. If average Joe middle American decides to

protest the wars, they'll have to at least pay attention, if not care. Bush may not be up for reelection, but the Rs in the Senate and Congress are, and they won't want a new war hurting their chances. Our best hope is for the Dems to keep pushing their image as the anti-war group, so when people start becoming anti-war they'll have only one place to go.

[raccoon]

15. A nuke test in March? What a remarkable coincidence!

"Beginning in March 2006, the Tehran government has plans to begin competing with New York's NYMEX and London's IPE with respect to international oil trades – using a euro-based international oil-trading mechanism.<7> The proposed Iranian oil bourse signifies that without some sort of US intervention, the euro is going to establish a firm foothold in the international oil trade. Given U.S. debt levels and the stated neoconservative project of U.S. global domination, Tehran's objective constitutes an obvious encroachment on dollar supremacy in the crucial international oil market."

Petrodollar Warfare: Dollars, Euros and the Upcoming Iranian Oil Bourse
by William R. Clark
(Friday August 05 2005)

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/17450


I think it's total bullshit about Iran planning a nuke test in March, too.

[peacebird]

5. either Israel (at *'s secret request) will attack Iran "to protect Israel"

OR he will claim Iran is fomenting insurgency in Iraq and therefore we MUST bomb Iran in retaliation. * wants to play with nukes and his ego needs to have him seen as the allpowerful "War Prez", especially since he's on a mission for "God" to spread "freedom".
The wishes of the American people matter not one whit to this man and his ilk.

[Odin2005]

12. The Millitary-Industrial Complex doesn't give a damn...

...what the people think. We are no longer a democracy, we are a Corporate Republic. They control the Media and the voting machines enough that they don't have to worry about us.

[liberal N proud]

6. We can't give up - There is too much at stake here

If the State of dis-Union address mentions Iran, we must rise up and see that they do not attack another nation.

[mopaul]

8. we have no choice-we're being dragged into this 1 way or the other

[leveymg]

9. That's their final card, but the decision to not attack was made many

months ago. There were a bunch of Iran scenarios and war games played at the Pentagon during 2004, and in every single one of them, the conflict with Iran escalated out of control. The Generals won't play under those circumstances of uncertainty. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6039135/site/newsweek/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4145036

The Iranians know it, the Europeans know it, the Israelis know that a preemptive attack just isn't going to happen. This is just a high-stakes bluff -- BushCo has no good cards to play anymore. When the cards go on the table, it'll be BushCo, the Congressional Republicans and the Dollar that's broke.

The only people who apparently don't know this are the American people. Maybe, if they get told the obvious truth enough -- even if its just us and the stock market doing the telling -- it might just get through to them.

[HuffleClaw]

10. i'm becoming more and more certain that

the next little trick up their sinister sleeve is a terror attack/scare.

[orwell]

11. If its insane...

...counterproductive, and profitable, you can count on the Bushies doing it.

The don't need no stinking re-election. Bring it on.

:eyes:

[wiggs]

13. We need one of three things...

...An insider whistleblower of the highest rank and integrity (military, CIA, or State Dept) that comes clean about misdeeds and administration incompetence

or

...A charismatic hero who is able to draw the public to his/her reasoning, insight, common sense and who can rally millions. I'm talking MLK, JFK level players that in addition to clarity of thought and nobility of purpose can also cut through extreme, intentional polarization that has kept the public divided. I don't see one of those on the horizon.....

or

An independent council (Fitz is the only one operating now, I think) has the fortitude and creds to reach into the oval office with indictments in a way that is clear, unquestionable, obvious...the damage done would have to be large and clear enough to affect elections and derail policy, because any indictment of high officials will take years to resolve and we can't wait.


Otherwise, with control of three branches of gov't, 4th estate, elections, black ops, and the willingness to to act in dishonest, ruthless, and illegal fashion, those in control now have all the cards.

[donkeyotay]

14. That's why it's not unthinkable

Attacking Iran would solve many problems for the junta. They are up to their eyeballs in scandals this year, from all the unfinished business - Kenny Lay, torture and Plame - to the new business of Abramoff, Delay spying and rigged elections. I don't see a downside for them in launching a new pseudo-patriotic crisis. A downside for America and the world, yes, but a downside for them? No. IMO they won't stop unless they're stopped.