The freepers are freaking out over the You Tube Princeton Diebold vid

[helderheid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g

As I keep pointing out to them, with machines like these, we'll never truly know who won - it's a NON-PARTISAN issue.

[helderheid]

1. DUer's. feel free to jump in the fun.

[aquart]

36. Done.

[BattyDem]

2. Then must know for sure that Diebold stole the elections for the GOP

Otherwise, why would they be so freaked out? Wouldn't they be concerned about Dems stealing elections? Wouldn't they be concerned about their votes being counted?

Any American who isn't completely outraged by the video needs to rethink their citizenship because they obviously don't believe in freedom and democracy.

[helderheid]

3. that is EXACTLY what I'm thinking. They claim it's a smear campaign

by the dems. What a CROCK. If you care about your country, you want clean elections. I would be (and have been after reading some history) APPAULED by a Dem stealing an election.

[BattyDem]

4. I agree. I'd be furious if the Dems were stealing elections

It doesn't matter who wins or who is fixing the elections. This is America and every person who votes should have their vote counted. How dare ANY political party undermine OUR democracy! :grr:

[helderheid]

6. oy the latest comments... must be the last of the backwash! UGH!

[BattyDem]

10. I think they're getting nervous

:smoke:

Any Republican who honestly believes the election results are legitimate would not be the slightest bit concerned. Any American who loves their country more than their party would be furious. Their reaction is very telling.

I liked this line by JimboUSofA:

"Republicanism is treason."

B-)

[havocmom]

27. Wanna see 'em sweat? Tell them Hillary has a Hacker

:rofl:

[BattyDem]

29. ROFL!

:rofl:

[helderheid]

31. Sweat?? THAT would give 'em an aneurysm! HELL POST IT! LOL

[lonestarnot]

41. Did you check and see if anyone did post that?

[havocmom]

42. Go ahead. I'm not gonna go over there....

and lots of people steal my lines. Just wish Anderson Cooper would credit me when he does it on air.

[lonestarnot]

45. Nope, never go there.

And tell Anderson to send you a check. :rofl:

[lumberjack_jeff]

25. It's that they just don't care.

to them:
a) rules are irrelevant, a win is a win.
b) cheating successfully is a sign of superior intellect.
c) leaders are chosen by God anyway. So what if Wally O'Dell gave him a little help.

They're unfit to lead. Democrats need to retake this country by whatever means necessary. Fuck the high road.

[notadmblnd]

5. That might just be the way to get their attention

hack the vote in favor of dems, or at least start the rumor that that is what is going to happen. I'll bet those machines will be swapped out pronto.

[helderheid]

7. you know what? FINE BY ME. Just get RID of them!! :)

[helderheid]

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[Subdivisions]

9. I just went over there snooping around thinking, you know, this truly

is a non-partisan issue and I was naive to think that I would find them just as appalled as we were and here's what I found:

ZOT! Liberals are Planning to Hack Voting Machines

<snip>

"I guess anybody can volunteer to be an election judge, and with the instructions that are being given out it only takes a few seconds to completely change the votes around without any record of it being done. Just when you though it was getting so the liberals couldn't screw things up anymore, they come up with something like this!"



Look you guys. I know we and they are diametrically opposed both politically and, for the most part, philosophically. But somehow we have to get the word out to the ones who will listen and be reasonable about it. Send this video to everyone you know, especially Freepers, in your family and to your friends.

[helderheid]

11. For the most part, that has been the response but there are a few

who quite honestly I was shocked about. This was done by Princeton University and made no mention of either party. Just that the equipment was compromised.

[Raksha]

12. Is that really what the Freepers are saying?

"I guess anybody can volunteer to be an election judge, and with the instructions that are being given out it only takes a few seconds to completely change the votes around without any record of it being done. Just when you though it was getting so the liberals couldn't screw things up anymore, they come up with something like this!"

That is the best news I've heard in a LONG time! That rumor needs some legs. :evilgrin:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

14. So why don't they agree with the obvious solution of eliminating the

Diebold machines and going with a paper ballot? Hmmm? :shrug: Oh, never mind, they were counting on those machines to cheat for THEM!

[lumberjack_jeff]

26. Absolutely. It's the best way to get rid of paperless voting machines. n/t

[Old and In the Way]

15. Hmmm, could be a little counter-programming going on.....

He baits them with, "ZOT! Liberals are Planning to Hack Voting Machines" and then makes them think with "I know we and they are diametrically opposed both politically and, for the most part, philosophically. But somehow we have to get the word out to the ones who will listen and be reasonable about it." Who knows, if this is what it takes to get record verifiable ballots, I'm fine with using the liberal boogeyman.

[Subdivisions]

40. Sorry, but the

I know we and they are diametrically opposed both politically and, for the most part, philosophically. But somehow we have to get the word out to the ones who will listen and be reasonable about it.

part was my words, not his/hers. The bit I quoted from FR is the part in quotes and the headline on their post.

[helderheid]

13. Thebrush (3 minutes ago)

I find it interesting that Dems think Bush is an idiot yet he put together a team that continues to outwit them in each election.
I forget, was Gore able to win his own state in 2000 or did the people he represented for years reject him?

[Old and In the Way]

16. Think he's an idiot? We have no doubts on that score.

That doesn't preclude his string-pullers from being dishonest and totally capable of creating election fraud.

[BattyDem]

17. These idiots just don't get it

They are so blinded by hate and partisanship that they can't see why this is a HUGE problem for EVERY American! Just because they're happy with the election results doesn't mean they're always going to be happy. Don't they realize that? They NEVER see the big picture. They're like little children - as long as they get what they want right now, everything's fine. :eyes:

[Catherine Vincent]

18. Thanks for re-posting.

I was watching it yesterday and had audio problems.

[helderheid]

21. pretty amazing stuff isn't it?

[KingFlorez]

19. I'm adding my two cents to the discussion right now

[CarlVK]

20. I thought that video was chilling. To the bone.

and it should be to every citizen who thinks their constitutionally mandated right to vote is secure.

[helderheid]

22. now THAT is a comment I want on that thread.

[countryjake]

23. Saw article on this over at Tech News...

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/52998.html

[Lautremont]

24. They must not like that the one example candidate is

Benedict Arnold, as they well know in their greasy little hearts that today's Benedict Arnolds can only be Il Dunce and company.

[helderheid]

28. DING DING DING DING DING!

[Catherine Vincent]

30. Yup!

He was the first person I thought of. LOL!

[helderheid]

32. .

[helderheid]

33. k all. I'm off to bed. I'd appreciate any help you can give on the thread

and please remember - approaching this as the non-partisan issue that it is makes them look so ridiculous.

[helderheid]

34. and please remember - approaching this as the non-partisan issue that it i

and please remember - approaching this as the non-partisan issue that it is makes them look so ridiculous.

[ContraBass Black]

35. The software section of the video doesn't have much in the way of

Demonstration, but the ease of physical tampering is striking.

[helderheid]

37. . bed now

[flyarm]

38. i have sent it to newspapers in Nj and Fla..and to and now on

a NJ dem web site..and had it sent out and now someone is trying to get it in The New Yorker magazine...

everyone must send it to their local papers..

i sent it to every writer from the Asbury Park Press ( NJ)

and the St Pete Times in fla..to all the writers..


please everyone send it to your local papers..and send it to every writer..someone will get the guts to write about it ...

or at least i hope so...

fly

[flyarm]

39. you are either with America ..or with the republican party...

you can't be both ..with democracy being stolen...by these fucking machines,..

we are a nation of laws that has gone amuck..because of the republican party..

so i say it again..you are either WITH UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ..OR YOU ARE WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY that is stealing our republic and democracy..YOU CAN NOT BE BOTH!

this should be non partisan...but it is not ..since only one party is stealing our democracy..and too many in one party know it is going on and they stay mute..


I am American..

fly

[Toots]

43. Don't they know that one of the biggest Vote machine companies, Sequoia

is a Venezuela Company. Aren't they worried that, that commie, socialist country might rig the votes against the right wing? :shrug:

[helderheid]

44. They aren't making any noise about that