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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:31 PM
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WTF ? -- Dog (The Bounty Hunter) Chapman Arrested for
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 02:21 PM by dogday
the capture of Andrew Luster... They are extraditing to Mexico.... :wtf:



On Edit: on MSNBC....Right now with Raspy Rita


Edit again to post new graphics




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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:43 PM
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1. I heard he broke someone out of jail in Mexico
The Mexicans probably didn't appreciate that.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:49 PM
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5. No I don't think that's what they said this morning
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 01:51 PM by seasonedblue
He went to Mexico to retrieve a drug suspect, a convicted brutal rapist, and then turned him in to the custody of the Mexican government.

I don't know what the charges are related to that, but they said it wasn't a felony.

They arrested Tim and Leland. I don't watch his show, but this seems like bullshit.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:52 PM
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6. Andrew Luster, air to a cosmetics company is who he arrested..
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 01:53 PM by dogday
The dog and sons were arrested by 12 feds who as Beth his wife put it, stormed the house and treated Dog and her sons worse than they have ever treated anyone they have detained...

All this for a mis offense-- my bs detector sounded off on this....
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:01 PM
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11. That Luster guy is REALLY creepy.
He would pick up young girls, dose them with GHB and rape them. Of course, the creep had to video tape his "conquests" and that's what did him in. One of the news programs showed a partial of one tape.:scared: :scared: :scared:
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:04 PM
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63. Following Dog's capture of Luster, he was convicted on 86 counts of rape
And we're extraditing him to Mexico for contributing to society in this manner. I don't get it.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:05 PM
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65. we're not extraditing him for contributing to society
we're extraditing him, per our extradition treaty with mexico, for allegedly violating Mexican law and then for jumping bail rather than standing to face his charges.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:04 PM
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12. I thought he brought back Luster a couple of years ago?
Not sure how this is related, but I'll be interested to hear more details.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:01 PM
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62. Sorry, I didn't express that very well.
I'm guessing you know the answer by now. I was trying to say that he was arrested for charges relating to the Luster case. I honestly don't know how long ago it was, but apparently it was 3 years ago.

:shrug:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:13 PM
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57. I thought he refused to turn luster over to the mexican authorities
And that is where the problem was. I thought they either brought him back into the U.S. and turned him into U.S. authorities or turned him into U.S. authorities in mexico who sent him back to the U.S., bypassing the Mexican government's role in the extradition process. It isn't legal for foreigners to come into mexico and arrest, detain, or export people, and dog's crew was charged for (i think) kidnapping in mexico. Until today, though, I was under the impression the charges had been dropped.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:12 PM
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64. Rita Crosby said that he did turn Luster over to the
Mexican authorities. I haven't heard anything since that initial report. If he broke the law, then he should be punished, however, I think the punishment should be mitigated by the fact that the monster he caught, is now in a max. security prison serving 100 yrs.

I've only watched his show once or twice, so I can't judge the man's character, but looking at it from the rape victims' point of view, I'd say the good outweighed the bad. But the bad should not be entirely overlooked.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:13 PM
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19. That is incorrect. He found a criminal that authorities could not find. /n
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:45 PM
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2. thats was so long ago, why now?
I remember the nighthe did that was the night Louisiana got its first female gov, so it was at least two years ago./

So we are going to give a citizen to Mexico>?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:48 PM
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4. 12 Feds stormed their house
took him, his sons.. Warrant made in Washington... They are going to turn them over to the Mexican authorities....

My BS detector is buzzing on this one... Why now??????????
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Lenore Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:42 PM
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36. Why now? Please see post #33 for the answer (EOM)
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:46 PM
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3. Raspy Rita
:rofl:
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:54 PM
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7. I missed that
Raspy Rita
:rofl:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:55 PM
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8. Raspy Rita Meter Maid
I get that Beatles song in my head when I hear her....
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:58 PM
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9. Well thank ya Ma'am
You made me laugh in twice in 2 days!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:01 PM
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10. Twice, I am good....
Don't forget to check out my political satire graphics above...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:05 PM
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14. I saw them
You're a very good graphic artist. Cheney is priceless in a mousehat...ROFL

Keep it up and I'll be stalking you for a laugh when I'm feeling down, lol.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:04 PM
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13. He broke the laws of Mexico

Bounty hunting is considered a crime in Mexico.

http://www.nbc10.com/news/9850095/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:08 PM
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15. And so they want him extradited after 3 years
for this? It is kind of strange to me....
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:10 PM
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16. How fast do you think these things move?

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:15 PM
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20. Apparently not so fast
3 years is a long time...
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:13 PM
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18. Yes but he was released. /nt
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:18 PM
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21. Was he released on bond or did they drop charges then?
Or did they just release him?


They had him there then, why not charge him then...



Good question....
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:17 PM
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59. but released on bail, which they then jumped, according to the article
"Charges have been pending against the three since local police in Mexico arrested them shortly after they roped in Luster. They posted bail but never returned to Puerto Vallarta for their court hearing on July 15, 2003."

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14839076/
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:28 PM
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26. Fascinating. Kind of makes escape to Mexico the way to go
for fugitives who can manage it.

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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:10 PM
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17. dog
GOOD, I cant stand that low life idiot

Dog the butthead more like it


i hope he spends years in jail

we dont need people like him running around flaunting ignorance
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:19 PM
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22. Yeah right
He catches a low life idiot rapist and he gets sent to prison for it! My my our "authorities" are always doing such good work. Doesn't the fucking US government have anything better to do?

Leave the Dawg alone!
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:28 PM
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25. dog
I dont care who he catches, dog the butthead is an idiot

he is lower then low life, he thinks his dog doo doesnt stink

his show is a joke along with his ignorant ugly wife
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:30 PM
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27. Is that you Andrew?
:rofl: just kidding... sorry couldn't help it, don't get mad :hi:
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:31 PM
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28. "Ignorant ugly wife"
Nice. I'm sure lots of women care what you think about their looks. I see at least as much ignorance on this board.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:45 PM
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37. dogged
I just cant stand either one of them or their redneck clan

They think their dog crap doesnt stink, its sickening to watch people like that

Yes she is ugly on the inside and outside, she is very childish and ignorant.

I speak my mind, and like I said, these people are ignorant.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:49 PM
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40. Well takes one to know one I guess.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:54 PM
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43. know one
Who? his wife and himself?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:33 PM
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29. Well, she may be big, but I do not consider Beth to be ugly.
Neither of them can be that ignorant as they are making some big bucks.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:36 PM
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30. I agree....
I don't agree with this specific action but I guess there is something called Karma. The guy makes his money off the misery of others. His show consists of him and his hillbilly clan chasing down poor petty drug criminals who skipped bail - all while hyping them up to be dangerous criminals on the FBI 10 most wanted list. I guess there is a need, in this society, for bail-bondsmen but that doesn't make them any less scummy of a lot......and they certainly don't need to publicize these poor people's misery.

IIRC, Dog did time in the can for manslaughter??? Nice people. Him and his phony jesite clan.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:39 PM
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34. 'ignorant ugly wife'?
:eyes:
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:47 PM
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38. I don't know about her looks.......
.....but her personality sure is ugly. That, and the ill-fitting American flag get-up she wears. Not to mention their phony prayer vigils before they go out on their hunt(of poor petty drug offenders) and cuss like sailors.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:50 PM
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42. Well, the prayer vigils certainly are showy.
As well as the picture of Bush that "Dog" keeps by his desk. But I do find this 3-year-delayed extradition as a bit loco.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:10 PM
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46. Wonder what he thinks of his beloved President now?
:shrug: just sayin :shrug:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:49 PM
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39. That remark only proves how ignorant the poster is. n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. So you're saying...
low life idiot rapists should be in jail but low life idiot bounty hunters shouldn't be?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:56 PM
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44. I'm glad Luster's off the streets, but I DO NOT approve of "dog's" tactics
The LAST thing we need to encourage in this country is vigilantism.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:23 PM
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23. Dog "found" a wealthy criminal the Mexican gov't "couldn't".
Andrew Luster was an extraordinarily wealthy and vicious serial rapist who fled the US after being arrested. Mexican officials "couldn't find him." Mr. Dog TBH went to Mexico to find him. Dog was successful. Bounty hunting is illegal in Mexico (they were out of their jurisdiction) and Dog et al went to jail for 3 days on kidnapping charges.

Luster was sent back to the US and sentenced to 100 years in prison.

Episode over.


Suddenly, Mexico wants Dog and Co. back to prosecute on kidnapping charges. Our government complies and sends US Marshals to capture him and extradite him for...yes..."kidnapping" the serial rapist and sending him back to the US for prosecution.

My guess is that the criminal heir to the Max Factor fortune was paying off the cops and local officials and they never wanted him to be found.

There has GOT to be more to this story.

(Maybe Dog will think next time before voting for GWB. He seems like a nice guy. Everyone's gotta learn sometime.)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:25 PM
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24. Something is really freaked up about this story
Once they released him, how could they recharge him again, and how could our government be complicit in this? Well I know how they could, but I mean, why did they do it??
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Lenore Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:39 PM
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33. Bin Laden...
This arrest is pure political BS! I think Dog worried someone in the Bush Admin. by publicly declaring he would capture Bin Laden within 90 days, but he needed his expenses paid up front.

Imagine the humiliation for Bush if Dog really did manage to get Bin Laden, in a mere 90 days, when this administration hasn't been able to do it in FIVE years.

Yes, Dog got some people worried so now they are selling him out. Maybe Dog will reconsider his love of Bush now.

For the record I appreciate Dog and his team, they do a service that the authorities simply refuse or can't seem to be able to do. I am, however, hopeful that this will bring Dog and his family over to our side.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Dog+bounty+hunter+%22bin+laden%22
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bikesein Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:07 PM
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66. Let's start up a collection
I wonder how dog would blend in in Afghanastan/Pakistan? Now that I might watch.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:40 PM
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35. I'm pretty sure they released him on some sort of "bail." ......
I'm pretty sure he was supposed to return to stand trial.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:26 PM
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50. The stories said he was indeed out on bail.
No matter how 'good' the outcome he broke the law to do it. He got caught. Then he jumped bail.

I won't say there isn't political motivation etc. but he put himself in this position by choice.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:59 PM
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55. "Then he jumped bail." Too funny!
Maybe the Feds had a little prayer meet before they busted him then preached all the way to custody about how he should change is ways. For his own good, of course, like Bush invaded Iraq for their own good.

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:27 PM
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52. They jumped bail in Mexico three years ago leaving pending charges
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 05:28 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
The charges stem from Chapman's capture of Max Factor heir Andrew Luster on June 18, 2003 in Puerto Villarta, Mexico.

Chapman's capture of Luster — a serial rapist — catapulted the bounty hunter to fame and led to the reality series on the A&E channel.

The three are being held in custody in Honolulu, and bail has not been set. They will face an extradition hearing to Mexico under terms of treaties between the U.S. and Mexico, Credic said.

Charges have been pending against the three since local police in Mexico arrested them shortly after they roped in Luster. They posted bail but never returned to Puerto Villarta for their court hearing on July 15, 2003.

A U.S. warrant for their arrest was signed by a federal judge in Honolulu on Sept. 13, 2006.
http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/ap/2006/09/14/america/NA_GEN_US_Bounty_Hunter_Arrest.php

What I'm wondering is will he lose his bounty hunters license for this?
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:19 PM
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60. Locally I Have Seen on the News
Illegal Mexicans have murdered people in town and run back to Mexico to escape and they are never heard from again.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:15 PM
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67. My theory, too
Luster is from a very wealthy, influential family and it was long suspected that his family knew of his whereabouts before he was captured.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:39 PM
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32. OK, it is not that bounty hunting is illegal in Mexico
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 02:43 PM by notmypresident
Rather he and all US bounty hunters do not have the protection afforded by US law for their activities.

So, while he can do things to people in this country that would sometimes seem to be crossing constitutional protections, those same actions in other countries are illegal.

He can kidnap bail jumpers in the US because US law considers bail jumpers to have given up their rights.

Mexico, as a sovereign nation, sees things differently. Same as if an FBI agent went down there and acted as law enforcement.

And please don't tell me that he caught a rapist. That is not even relevant. Yes, Luster is an asshole but either we live by the rule of law or we don't.

EDIT: I stand corrected. I guess they do say it as bounty hunting being illegal in Mexico. I still say the fact is that bounty hunters can not go into other countries and break the law. The smart ones get the local cops to help them.

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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:27 PM
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51. I agree. n/t
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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:50 PM
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41. Good!
I hate that smarmy fuck. Mexican justice is fine by me.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:09 PM
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45. Does this mean?
Mexico will now start arresting and turning over all the fugitives in their country that we have warrants for?

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:35 PM
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47. Ya, Sure they will..... nt
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:15 PM
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48. Turns out Dog and his boys are bail jumpers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_en_tv/bounty_hunter_arrest


Charges have been pending against the three since local police in Mexico arrested them shortly after they roped in Luster. They posted bail but never returned to Puerto Villarta for their court hearing on July 15, 2003, Credic said.

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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:21 PM
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49. ROTFLMFAO
Stupid stupid thing to do. I thought any bountyhunter would know to check the local jurisdictonal laws before doing anything.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:32 PM
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53. Well the really funny thing to me
Is that the mexican authorities did it by the book. Got a judge to get a warrant and had US LE arrest them.

If he had accorded the same courtesies to the Mexican government he would not be in this mess.

And man, he is in a real mess.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:26 PM
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54. True, true. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:07 PM
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56. OMG
:rofl:
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MisterHowdy Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:15 PM
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58. Dog = White trash.
and I can't stand his wife.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:25 PM
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61. Shrub = White trash , Dog is an American , walking velvet art, that he is
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 08:27 PM by orpupilofnature57
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