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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:22 AM
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Join the Navy.. (after basic, you'll be making around $85K
or so the young man I met at bowling said.. The recruiter told him so :eyes:

I advised him to have a lawyer look the papers over before he signed anything..

He said.. "I can't afford a lawyer, that's why I need to join the Navy"..

I said:

Lawyers are cheaper than funerals.. get a loan from Mom & Dad.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:29 AM
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1. What is that, for the whole four years?
I know recruiters lie, but that's really stretching it.

Unless they're recruiting this guy to be a Commander or a Captain right out of boot camp, there's no way.
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kentjay Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:36 AM
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2. interesting,
upon leaving bootcamp in 1962 i was paid 52.50 every 2 weeks.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:39 AM
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5. Gross or net pay?
What were you, an overpaid celebrity recruit? ;-) I don't remember what my gross pay was but I do remember distinctly only getting $33 cash every 2 weeks in '65.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:07 AM
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7. it was $167 a month in 1971 (gross)
for a seaman.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:19 AM
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9. I believe my base pay in '67's navy was 92 bucks a month
when I left VN the new recruits were getting almost what I was getting even with overseas pay and hasardous duty pay. The military was raising the pay to attract more recruits and it was an injustice to us old salts but there was nothing we could do about it as the military allowed no desent, no voice.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:29 AM
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10. It soared to 370 a month when they went to the AVF in 73!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:32 AM
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13. I was out by the then but I was amazed that the base pay
of a new recruit was almost as much as my pay when I left the navy, I remember shaking my head thinking they could have and should have been paying us more.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:02 PM
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23. As an E-5 in Sept '69, my base pay for the month was $254.70
Y'all made me go look at the pay vouchers (DA 1239-1) in my folder - at least what I could still read on these aged forms from 37 years ago.

The $254.70 is for the entire pay period 1-30 SEP69 and doesn't include allotments, hazardous duty, combat pay and other entitlements as a married SP/5 in Nam.

My NET pay for the period was $369.00 ... in MPC, of course.
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kentjay Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:10 AM
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8. no deductions,poverty category
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:54 AM
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14. I remember 78 bucks a month in boot camp in 1960
And it went to 98 when I got out of boot camp.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:45 AM
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3. Its sad to say
that lieing to a candidate is not the worst thing that can be done to them.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=40023
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:45 AM
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4. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Actually I know where they get those creative numbers from, they used to throw around similar bullshit when I was in the Navy.

It's "the equivalent of" whatever annual salary figure they pulled out of their ass that day. You see, you get free housing and that is worth, well some figure. free healthy care and dental, free food, and so on. I heard one clown saying that if you lived on base you didn't need a car, and this was worth something like 15K a year by itself since it saved you the payment, insurance, gas, and upkeep.

Of course it's all nonsense, but that's what recruiters are good at. Throw in a few dragons and damsels in distress and you'd have some damned fine fairy tales.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:47 AM
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6. Ain't that the truth
Navy: it's not just an adventure, it's a job.

And right about now it's one that likely could get you killed dead. :P
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:30 AM
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11. And the oldie but goodie:
Never Again Volunteer Yourself. Popular when I was in, '78-'83.

-Hoot
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:32 AM
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12. That luxurious steel shelf on the ship.
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 06:34 AM by acmejack
Wake up service every morning. Great cuisine, free ocean cruises people pay big money for these things. It probably is worth at least $85K! Whats the going price on a six month cruise?

edit they have steel shelfs now, no more of the dreaded trampoline effect from too loose bunk lashings. Of course it has eliminated all those hilarious pranks that the duty section could perpetrate on the drunks returning from liberty, too.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:07 AM
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16. He'll be lucky to get duty on a submarine instead of the front lines
in Iraq, like the son of a coworker who joined the Navy -- told he'd be on a ship or in a hospital -- but instead got yanked over to serve as a medic for the Marines.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:39 PM
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17. That's what I tried to tell the kid, but he was "sure" they would
never lie to him...

I hope his parents are not thinking he'll be safe in the Navy.. That's not necessarily the case these days,..
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:03 AM
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15. That would be great news for the two kids I know in the navy
can't wait to tell them. :)
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:41 PM
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18. My nephew just got thru basic with hopes of becoming a navy seal
like his dad, which didn't happen for him unfortunately. He called us up last week and said he regrets it all so much. :(
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:44 PM
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19. He'll be lucky he has enough money
for food by the end of the month.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:46 PM
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20. I got a whopping $78 a month when I joined in '61.
By 1965, when I departed the Marine Crotch, I was earning the princely sum of $165 a month.

And, the only thing they promised me was that I was to be one of "The Few, The Proud". They lied about that too.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:47 PM
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21. Act now and you will also receive
Free travel to exotic locations.

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:50 PM
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22. No way he'll make that per year...
In '90 with money for dependents and housing, I made $1200 p/mo. You'd think these kids would start figuring out some recruiters will lie to get them to sign up.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:12 PM
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24. The military pay scales
are public information, found at http://www.dod.mil/dfas/militarypay/2006militarypaytables.html and click on the link. He'll be starting at $1273.50/month, which is a LONG way from $85K/year. He's going to be very disappointed when he sees his first checks.

I pity the fool.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:24 PM
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25. That kid misunderstood what the recruiter told him....
What the recruiter said to the kid was that he could expect to make about $85.000 if he signed up for a four year hitch. Silly kid.
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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:37 PM
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26. I joined the Navy when I was 19...
and for some odd reason I was savvy enough to know recruiters were liars, so I walked in and told the guy I was going to join, I had already made up my mind, but if he lied to me I wouldn't.

And he didn't. He told me the flat out truth about everything.

This guy clearly isn't as lucky, unless he's going in as an officer in a combat zone - he might pull 85K then. but probably not even then.
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