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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:35 PM
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World has tapped just 18 percent of global oil supplies
http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=157340

VIENNA, Austria - The world has tapped only 18 percent of the total global supply of crude, a leading Saudi oil executive said Wednesday, challenging the notion that supplies are petering out.

Abdallah S. Jum’ah, president and CEO of the state-owned Saudi Arabian Oil Co., known better as Aramco, said the world has the potential of 4.5 trillion barrels in reserves - enough to power the globe at current levels of consumption for another 140 years.

Jum’ah challenged oil ministers and petroleum executives at an OPEC conference in Vienna to step up exploration “and leave the minimum amount of oil in the ground.”

“The world has only consumed about 18 percent of its conventional potential,” Jum’ah said, contending that should lay to rest fears that the world is in danger of being tapped out within a few decades.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:37 PM
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1. But what currency will they pay for it in?
The answer is what bush and the neocons are trying to force.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:44 PM
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2. Excellent! That solves the energy crisis!
What a relief. Of course, it also means that the average daytime temperature on Earth will be higher than Venus within thirty years, but hey, at least we'll be able to power all the air conditioners we need.

Thanks God I can stop worrying.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:47 PM
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4. I agree we need to can fossil fuels. With today's
technology, we can but people put profits over their own well being.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:47 PM
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3. That's not really a long time
So we're at the midway point, is that it? It was just around 140 years ago (give or take a decade) that inventors started using petroleum to fire up internal combustion contraptions. And now, here we are... and nobody's really exploring how we can create vast amounts of energy with something else.

It's gonna be fun....

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:48 PM
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5. I believe him kinda.
All of the maneuvering to make prices higher does not convince me of a pending shortage.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:55 AM
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27. It's another example of lying while speaking the perfect truth.
> I believe him kinda.

It's another example of lying while speaking the perfect truth;
a skill the Republicans and their Right-wing friends have abso-
lutely perfected.

Yes, it's entirely possible that we've tapped only 18% of the
world's oil supplies.

It's also possible that the other 82% of the oil is vastly less
economical to tap, and will cost far more than we've ever paid
before.

For example, in typical oil field, we don't "pump it dry", we
pump it to the point where it will cost more money to extract
the oil than the oil is (currently) worth. I believe the figure
right now is about 50% extraction. So right away, even if we
never discovered another oil field on the planet, you could
safely state, *ABSOLUTELY TRUTHFULLY* (if somewhat misleadingly)'
that "We've only tapped 50% of the planet's oil supply!"

It's just that we can't afford to pump out the other 50%.

So it probably goes like that. A big part of the 82% still there
is in known fields. Another big part is probably deep undersea,
where even our highest-tech rigs still can't access it. And yes,
there are probably a few undiscovered not-too-difficult sites
yet to be exploited.

But cheap oil is over.

And the faster the world accepts that fact, the better off we'll
all be.

Tesha
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:06 AM
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28. Bingo! It ain't the EXISTANCE of oil that's the problem.
It's the EXTRACTION at a cost the world can afford.
Good call, Tesha.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:51 PM
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6. The Civil War had just ended 140 years ago.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:52 PM
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7. i`d say that`s really optimist
going deeper is really expensive and technologically challenging and if there are fields that have not been found yet , it still will be cheaper to develop conservation technology and build the end products.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:54 PM
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8. That may or may not be so
I have a hard time taking anything concerning oil from the Saudis without a huge grain of salt, considering that they keep their current oil reserves a state secret.

But even let's take his number at face value. The question isn't how much is left, hell, he's probably right and there's a lot of oil deep in the earth. The trouble is can we get it, and is it economically feasible to do so. If neither condition can be met, then we may as well have no oil at all. In fact this is the gist of Peak Oil theory. It isn't that we're running out of oil, it is that we're running out of cheap, easily recovered oil.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:04 PM
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9. Abdallah for president!
I'm just say'n...
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:08 PM
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10. I guess the 140 years will cover the million or so people left on
the planet when Global Warming kills off most of the 6 or 7 billion of us.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:12 PM
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11. what's left though
may be just a little bit expensive to retrieve.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:22 PM
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13. And perhaps not the best quality.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:20 PM
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12. Quality not quantity
But even using the sole measure of quantity this is simply wrong.

Mankind has been drilling it up, lifting it out of the ground, and burning it into heat and vapor for the past 147 years. The oil that mankind will lift from the earth in the future, on the far side of Peak Oil, will be in faraway places, in harsh climates, under excruciatingly difficult conditions, deep down, heavy, sour, and overall expensive.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:27 PM
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14. Saudis
It has been rumored that the Saudis have for years exaggerated the extent of their reserves in order to prop up their lines of credit with banks; much of what is left of their reserves is thought to be very expensive to mine, given their habit of injecting wells with salt water, which initially makes it easier to pump oil, but much harder later on.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:59 PM
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15. current R-wing talking point being pushed... google results...
News results for available oil earth - View today's top stories
Oil shortage a myth - petrol chief - Melbourne Herald Sun - Sep 10, 2006
Peak oil theories wrong, oil boss says - The Age - Sep 10, 2006
Peak oil theories wrong, says ExxonMobil boss - The Australian - Sep 10, 2006



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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:06 PM
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16. That's lovely.
Someone who stands to profit from the sale of oil promising it will never run out. Thanks, but no thanks. I think he's a wee bit conflicted. In interest, that is.

Now, find someone who is in the oil industry but is not tied to the profits, and I might listen. Nice try though!
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:17 PM
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17. Gee, just think we have 82% more of that shit to put in the air we breath
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:29 PM
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18. Two problems
Abdallah S. Jum’ah, president and CEO of the state-owned Saudi Arabian Oil Co., known better as Aramco, said the world has the
potential of 4.5 trillion barrels in reserves - enough to power the globe at current levels of consumption for another 140 years.


So there's only POTENTIAL, and it will last 140 years at CURRENT LEVELS. Yeah. Awesome. Time to buy 2 SUV's and start watering my garden with petrol. Fuckwit.


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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:20 AM
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22. It will ultimately be less than 140
Considering the increase in consumption of oil due to a larger population and larger global middle class.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:40 AM
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25. Which also assumes production capacity will not decline as sources
are being depleted. Which is obviously complete hogwash - not only for oil but for any natural resource.
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trekbiker Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:26 AM
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19. Like anything coming from Aramco is to be trusted???
Its pretty obvious that the large, easy to find fields have all been drilled and are starting to decline. US production has been in decline since the early 70's. Just the fact that Chevron is willing to drill 5 miles down in over a mile of water in a location almost sure to get whacked by future hurricanes should tell us something. It has been estimated that Chevron can (maybe) profitably exploit this new find if oil stays above $45/barrel. And its not one big 3-15 billion barrel field they found. It's hundreds of small pockets of oil spread out over hundreds of square miles, all of it very difficult and very expensive to get to. Canadian oil sands, the same thing, expensive to process, very low EROEI, but still better than 1.0. Coal gasification, same thing. Oil shales?? lucky if we ever see EROEI greater than 1.0 with shales. Cheap oil is gone forever.

But I do believe Aramco on one thing, we will have oil available in one form or another for a long time to come, it will just cost a fortune.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:30 AM
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20. That's correct. Peak oil is a complete myth.
But it sure lets the oil cos pretend there's a shortage so they can profit 334% per quarter!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:37 AM
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24. Are you saying there never will be peak oil?
Or just that it won't happen any time soon?
If you mean to say the latter, than it's at least deceptive to say "peak oil is a complete myth".
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:00 AM
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21. The Saudis routinely LIE about thier oil reserves.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:34 AM
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23. Confirms that the era of cheap oil is over.
That's if you include all estimated reserves (as opposed to proven reserves) including low yield deposits such as tar sand and oil shale, heavy crude and yet to be discovered deep water fields.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:43 AM
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26. I guess the GOP needs help.....How CONvinient..The Timing?..Perfect
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:13 AM
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29. I'd still bet that number is very high

I'd be shocked if we had even tapped 10 percent.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:21 AM
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30. Well that's it then...
I'm off to the Hummer dealership so I can join the "I have no penis he-man club"! WOOO HOOOOO! Look out environment! I'm coming to get ya from behind!!!
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