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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:16 PM
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Howard Stern: "Get the #@#$ out of Iraq. The next President..."
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 07:54 PM by Mike03
Howard Stern, this morning, was railing against Bush and the war in Iraq, and he said something so very simple yet so totally appealing and entirely logical. This is not a direct quote, but the closest I can come to it: "The man who will be the next President of the United States will be the candidate who says, 'The day I arrive in the Oval Office is the day we get out of Iraq." He went on to elaborate that he would not put up with a candidate who said we need to gradually disengage, or who would make excuses of any kind.

Just get the hell out. This war is the worst thing I have seen in my lifetime. It's destroying our humanity, our soldiers, our future, our culture, our sanity and our economy.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:23 PM
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1. And let Halliburton stay and clean up the mess
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:50 PM
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4. MAKE Halliburton clean it up and restore the infrastructure on their dime!
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:05 PM
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7. Give Dick Cheney a shovel...
after all, he has already been paid quite well for "his work".
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:24 PM
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8. Now that is a nice visual image!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:25 PM
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2. America cannot exist without being involved in some sort
of war somewhere, she is an addict. A Russian diplomat once warned his counterparts here that Russia was going to do something much worse... Russia was going to deprive America of an enemy.... and so they did, so we found/partnered up with/created another.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:00 PM
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6. The last decent Republican President warned us of all this...
Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.


Dwight D. Eisenhower-Military Industrial Complex speech.


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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:54 PM
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11. We desperately need to break this habit, though,
because it is destroying us and everything we used to stand for. And it is making human being crazy, at least the ones I see in the western United States. It's time to get back to being human beings.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:47 PM
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3. It's actually quite brilliant.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:59 PM
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5. Yeah, it's only logical but then
there's dickhead running around saying, "we would do it all the exact same way again" cause they can't admit they lied and it came back to eat their polls up.

We went in wrong and there was no way it was EVER going to turn out right.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:30 PM
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9. I miss Howard....
He was taken off my local radio years ago (Hint: I live in Pat Robertson's 'hood), then I turned to Imus, Howard's natural enemy going back 20 years, but shock jocks are coming together now, eh? This really is an exercise in fact based shock jock ranting. Am I close?
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:48 PM
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10. I never miss an opportunity to beat the drum for satellite radio;
Make the investment, it's the only place where you can hear non filtered programing. Howard is so much more than a shock jock, just listening to their conversations in the morning is worth the price of admission.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:59 PM
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12. thanks!
I miss the Howard before he went Sirius/or is it XM...I just miss him when I was a middle aged lady doing her walkies for a few miles, and that was a good thing :hi:
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