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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:13 PM
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AP confirms endurance of freepers
Study finds Neanderthals survived longer

Neanderthals survived for thousands of years longer than scientists thought, with small lingering bands finding refuge in a massive cave near the southern tip of Spain, new research suggests.

The work contends that Neanderthals were using a cave in Gibraltar at least 2,000 years later than their presence had been firmly documented anywhere before, researchers said.

"Maybe these are the last ones," said Clive Finlayson of The Gibraltar Museum, who reported the findings Wednesday with colleagues on the Web site of the journal Nature.

The paper says charcoal samples from fires that Neanderthals set in the cave are about 28,000 years old and maybe just 24,000 years old.

(more)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060913/ap_on_sc/the_last_neanderthals
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:13 PM
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1. LOL!
:D
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:14 PM
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2. Damn Neanderthals, uh...I mean Freepers!
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:16 PM
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3. Neanderthals were way smarter than Freepers.
They had higher-reasoning capabilities, formed stable societies, cooperated on raising young and caring for the elderly, enjoyed art and music and lived peacefully with their environment.

Compared to the average Freep, Neanderthals were gods.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:25 PM
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9. Enjoyed art and music? I don't think so.
Only Modern Humans had the capacity for symolic thought required for art and music.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:05 PM
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15. Not according to the latest theories about Neanderthals.
The BBC ran a documentary about them last year, and it seems that Neanderthals were every bit as mentally evolved as we are. There is even some evidence that they engaged in artistic expression (complex burial rituals, jewellery-making). Their throats were equipped for speech and it is therefore likely they could sing.

The prevailing view of why Neanderthals became extinct has less to do with their lack of intelligence and more to do with their poor adaptation to changing environmental conditions. Put simply, modern humans were better adapted to living at higher temperatures on open grasslands, due to greater agility and less bodyhair/muscle density. They outcompeted Neanderthals for scarce resources and drove them gradually to extinction.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:13 PM
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16. recent discoveries say otherwise...
H. neandertalensis
(18) Chatelperonian style stone tools came about coincident with the arrival of modern sapiens to Neandertal’s territories (40 tya), and were the result of their borrowing from the Aurignacean toolkit. The presence of jewelry made of antler and bone indicates attempts by moderns to trade with Neandertals. (19) A flute has been discovered associated with Neandertal remains dating 43tya to 67 tya. It matches the seven note diatonic scale of modern human music. (34)
They were social, hunter-gatherer people, living in bands of twenty to forty, practicing cooperative hunting and caring for their sick and wounded. Many individual specimines show signs of massive and multiple injuries to the upper body. They probably also had a language capability.
http://www.geocities.com/soho/atrium/1381/hominids2.html
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:17 PM
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4. "Maybe these are the last ones"
LOLS we know they were not the last ones now.

Sloping foreheads are abundant in America, but they will become extinct.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:19 PM
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5. "I'd like the duck, with mango salsa"
WELL..someone had to do it!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:24 PM
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6. Hell, I thought the last one was sighted
at the last group pic of the SCOTUS ... "Fat Tony" ...
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:29 PM
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7. LOL! Good one!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:32 PM
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8. LOL (nt)
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:28 PM
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10. they're so toxic, not even Death wants to touch them.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:29 PM
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11. LOL!
:rofl:
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:30 PM
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12. 24,000 years ago? Try yesterday.
Listen to any Rush Limbaugh show and you'll hear plenty of neanderthals call in.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:12 AM
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17. I think most of them call in to Weiner and Insannity
I flipped past Scrappy Doo Insannity yesterday and heard an obviously bogus caller claiming to be a Democrat who's 'appalled' at what they are doing these days.

RIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHTTTTT.

:eyes:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:33 PM
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13. "small lingering bands finding refuge in caves"
Cheney??
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:35 PM
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14. Hey quit slandering Neanderthals!
Differences should be celebrated.
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