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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:28 PM
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Besides George W. Bush, Which Members Of The GOP Have Committed Treason?
Which ones in Congress have violated their oath to uphold the Constitution of our nation?

Which ones are putting special interests ahead of American interests?

Which ones have undermined national security by supporting the president's policy of cut-and-run in Afghanistan and his diversionary invasion of Iraq?

And let's not limit this to just elected officials. Let's include judges, pundits, artists, etc. Which ones are helping to foment fear, hatred, and suspicion?





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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:30 PM
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1. Guilty of Treason
Just for a start...rush limbaugh, the Fox News boys, the TV networks, the News channels on cable. People can add their's as they go along.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:30 PM
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2. Which ones haven't is the better question....
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:32 PM
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3. It would use up less bandwith that's for sure. n/t
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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:47 PM
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7. The election is less than two months away.
Time is of the essence. (The list should have been completed months ago.)
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 02:50 PM
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11. The much better question which is also relevant to Dems
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Yoda Yada Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:42 PM
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4. Perfect talking point: Bush"Cut and run in Afghanistan"
(Sorry if this is a distraction from your post)....but...

This is a PERFECT RESPONSE to the incessant mantra of the Republicans...Dems want to cut and run.

Whenever a Republican uses this phrase.....I want to hear EVERY Democrat respond in kind by saying, "George Bush 'cut and run' from Afghanistan. If we had stayed, we wouldn't be in this mess in Iraq."

Now how easy would that be to say? (It's brief, to the point, and hopefully would shut them up.):think: :think: :think:
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Drops_not_Dope Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:43 PM
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5. 100%
EVERY SINGLE GODdamned ONE OF THEM. THIS IS NOT JUST ANGER SPEAKING-IT IS FACT. I HAVE PROOF.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:46 PM
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6. Far to many to list here.
It seems that GOPers, by and large, lost their ability to understand simple concepts like, 'conflict of interest', collusion, gross negligence, insider trading, having two sets of 'books', etc.

Not sure many commit treason, but a lot of them would be guilty of breaking the law when Bill Clinton was in office. I guess everything did change after 9/11. :eyes:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:55 PM
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8. Agree. Nearly all
The really strange thing about the GOP is how completely they shifted to this big government, big deficit, authoritarian big brother mode. It really wasn't all that long ago that many, if not most, of the GOP members were on record as being against those things. The total change is amazing. I guess people really are only in it for the money, not one for principle.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 01:57 PM
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9. I think you have to commit treason in order to join the club.
Its like their initiation rite.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 02:06 PM
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10. All. Any who didn't want to would have defected.
And I don't see, er, any, doing that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 02:53 PM
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12. EVERY ONE that worked to stop IranContra and BCCI investigations.
And every one that said Clinton was exaggerating terror issue to avoid their examination of his personal life.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 02:55 PM
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13. None of them, none of those things are treason.
Its kind of a hyperbolic acccusation, don't you think?
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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 04:49 PM
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14. Its kind of a hyperbolic acccusation, don't you think?
"Its kind of a hyperbolic acccusation, don't you think?"

THAT'S THE POINT! The only way to neutralize Rove's "Season of Treason" tactics is to hit back with the same charges. The Republicans keep winning because we seem to think it's beneath us to fight back in kind.

You can't win a war of hyperbole but you WILL lose if you don't respond. In kind. With equal force.

IMHO

For what it's worth.


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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:15 PM
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16. Dissenting
No, the way to hit back at Rove's hyperbole is to state the facts, calmly and rationally.

Treason is defined in Article 3, section 3 of the US Constitution:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

I suppose it might help to tell Mr. Rove that I do not recognize any secret, hidden clauses in the Constitution giving the President as much power as the White House squatter claims and that only Mr. Cheney and Mr. Gonzales seem to be able to find.

I do not recall anything done by the junta that seriously fits that definitions.

They may be war criminals, but they aren't traitors.
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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:18 PM
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18. well
"No, the way to hit back at Rove's hyperbole is to state the facts, calmly and rationally."

You can't do that in a 30 second ad.

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:48 PM
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19. No?
It is not treason to disagree with the President of the United States.

It is not treason to dissent from a war policy that has so miserably failed.

It is not treason to propose that we either find a plan that will work in Iraq, or make plans to leave.

Vote Democratic on November 7.

I think you can squeeze that into 30 seconds.

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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:01 AM
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23. The GOP negative ads are coming
Rove is going all out.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:55 AM
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26. You have simply restated the problem
On what is the problem, we have no disagreement.

We disagree on what to do about it.

The mistake Democrats have made over the years is not that they took the high road against Rove's noise machine, but that they took no road. They simply thought that the charges were too absurd to be believed and either didn't answer them in a timely manner or didn't answer them at all. Consequently, there are still good people out there who think Al Gore claims to have invented the Internet or that John Kerry was decorated for valor through fraud.

Bill Clinton was the only candidate who knew what to do about GOP smear tactics: respond as quickly as James Carville's fax machine could get out the facts. That's right -- get out the facts. Clinton didn't respond to their lies by throwing more lies back at them, he simply set the record straight. And it worked.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:34 PM
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17. I think the definition fits the GOP rather well.
trea·son Pronunciation (trzn) n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.



The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=treason
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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:42 PM
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15. A Reprise of the Grand Old Party Line
"I listen to my Democrat friends, and I wonder if they're more interested in protecting terrorists than in protecting the American people," he said.

The majority leader's charge of treachery was no accident. Two months before Election Day, Republicans have revived the technique used with great success in 2002 and 2004: suggesting that the loyal opposition is, well, not so loyal.

Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) seemed to have the same talking points yesterday. In a fight for his political life, Santorum worked himself into a rage on the Senate floor, hollering: "If you listen to the Democratic leader, our lesson is: . . . Let's put domestic politics ahead of the security of this country. That's the message."

The arrival of Treason Season, heralded by the charged address President Bush gave on Monday's 9/11 anniversary, is right on schedule.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/12/AR2006091201484.html


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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:53 PM
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20. Everyone who voted for the Iraq War is guilty IMO.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:49 PM
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21. the quote for treason is
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them," (see post 16)

well, these neocons have been conducting a war against the united states and the constitution from day one. they have been trying to kill off our government, make it useless so people can't trust/depend on the government, etc.

i say they have all been treasonous. they have levied their freakin neocon agenda & war against the people of the united states for over six years--
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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:45 AM
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22. Button


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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:58 AM
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24. Impeachable Treason
Welcome To Impeachable Treason, The Leading Source Of News & Views On The Struggle For A Bushless America

http://www.impeachabletreason.com


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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:43 AM
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25. wow, this one is sinking out of sight too fast
(how about helping out with an occasional kick, anyone?)

much appreciated

:)

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:21 PM
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27. Yes, impeach them all. If we don't then we won't be
sending the message that there are consequences for treason. We didn't do this for Watergate or Iran Contra, or the ones we punished, we didn't punish enough, and they all came back into power to do the same BS again only each time it get's worse.

We need to put a stop to this once and for all by making the punishment severe enough to make any aspiring god-kings stop in their tracks and think it over.
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Wafture Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 07:54 PM
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28. s-kick
:kick:

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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 07:58 PM
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29. Hastert
Almost whatever the WH does, you can always find Hastert in it as well.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:00 PM
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30. They are all criminals on some level...
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