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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:50 AM
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Wow! Did You Catch Michael Ware's Propaganda Piece About Iraq on CNN?
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 10:52 AM by leftchick
Damn! And I always liked him. He sounded like he was reading a Pentagon Propaganda Piece! It goes like this.... Al-Anbar is now LOADED with UBL's Generals and Al-Qaeda Fighters. One soldier said "These are the guys who brought down the Towers"! :eyes:

Next a marine elaborated on how Al-Anbar is the "central front in the war against terror and Al-Qaeda! That war stretches from Pakistan to Madrid, al-Anbar is the center and Ramadi is the Capitol." Sound familiar? Apparently it is a repeat of bush's terra speech. :eyes:

Ware and the other CNN folks interviewed many soldiers about their mission and ended with a commander commenting on all of the Queda guys. (No mention of Iraqis in Iraq mind you.)

So it appears that well funded propaganda division from the Pentagon is using CNN and they happily oblige. It was extremely disturbing to say the least. :puke:
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:53 AM
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1. And You Expect Whores To Not Act Like Whores?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:53 AM
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2. And yet this morning I was reading the paper and Bill Oreilly was
rambling on about the "liberal media" in his newspaper column.

I sat and read that, and just shook my head.

He'll cry about the liberal media on TV, on the radio, and in newspapers, without a shred of irony, that it's the media that gives his right-wing lunacy a voice.

SO here's more from our "liberal media". Not suprising. It sounds right-wing.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:54 AM
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3. The NBC story I read was that the Marines gave up on Anbar...
and Al Qaeda moved in, which was an ominous turn of events. So did they retreat from Anbar, so they could say that Iraq, with AQ entrenched, is, indeed, the center of the "war on terror"? This is all very convoluted!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:04 AM
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7. apparently they are backstepping from that report
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 11:05 AM by leftchick
sort of. The mission to train Iraqis is continuing, in order to do more than "stifle" the terrorists they need more soldiers. But shhhhh, you don't bring that up before an election. In addition we can not leave because (this was emphasized to the max!) al-Anbar is THE central front in the war on terra! I wonder what this does to Afghanistan's status? So yes indeed the whole thing is a convoluted mess.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:14 AM
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11. Thanks, leftchhick! nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:54 AM
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4. Ricks said last night on MSNBC that we had lost Anbar province.
Interview with Olbermann.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:01 AM
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5. I have no idea who the guys that have backfilled in Anbar
but it looks like the Marines have lost the territory. :shrug:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:10 AM
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10. Sunni Iraqis would be my best guess
Juan Cole's whole column is a must read today....

<snip>

The problem with this set of statements is that they don't contradict the intelligence report that said that al-Anbar had been lost politically. It wasn't being alleged that the Marines couldn't go on "stifling" the insurgency. The allegation is that there are no functioning government institutions in the Sunni Arab areas. The allegation is that hearts and minds have been decisively lost. What the American commanders either don't understand or don't dare say is that the process of stifling has driven more and more and more Sunni Arabs into opposition to the US presence and the new government. In summer of 2004, when David Petraeus was running Mosul, Ninevah province was relatively quiet. Now there are bombs, killings, trouble. Mosul became a problem with the Fallujah assault, and it has never since stopped being a problem. Samarra is a problem. Tikrit is a problem. Baqubah is a problem. Kirkuk is a problem. Ramadi is a problem. If you just keep a lid on the problems, "stifling" them and driving ever more people into opposition, someday you will wake up and find that you really have lost, and not just politically.

The reason, moreover, that the Marines have not "won" is because they cannot. If winning means doing to Ramadi what they did to Fallujah, well that would just drive even more Sunnis to insurgency and further radicalize everyone from Ramadi, wherever they scatter. You could de-urbanize the whole Sunni Arab heartland, but then you'd have large numbers of mobile angry refugees, another Palestinian problem that would last decades and be destabilizing. There is no military solution.

Stifling is very bad. If that is all they can do, they should leave. Who cares who the mayor of Ramadi is? And, if they organize to try to overthrow the Maliki government, well, then they can be fought when they begin to march. They would not get very far if the US air force did not want them to.

http://www.juancole.com/
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:03 AM
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6. !!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:07 AM
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9. lol!
I know, I know. It was truly an amazing site to see bush's speech come out of the soldier's and reporter's mouths. Goebbels would be envious.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:05 AM
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8. Did UBL's Generals and Al-Qaeda Fighters plant the thermite explosives
...which caused all three buildings to implode? Did UBL's Generals and Al-Qaeda Fighters hold back the U.S. military response fighter planes from responding? Did UBL's Generals and Al-Qaeda Fighters cause the blips to appear on NORAD radar screens and give the commands to not respond to them? Did UBL's Generals and Al-Qaeda Fighters destroy all the evidence at the WTC and Pentagon crime scenes immediately following the 9/11 attacks? Did UBL's Generals and Al-Qaeda Fighters delay the investigations of 9/11 and deny the appointment of an investigative committee and appoint people to block and classify investigation data on 9/11?

Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and others in the Bush administration need to be impeached now.
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