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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:27 PM
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Air Force General: Try out new weapons on US crowds...
... Can you believe this shit?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf.weapons.ap/index.html

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

I.e.: American citizens should be treated like a wartime enemy. They actually WANT to attack Americans.

Civilian control of the military takes another hit.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:30 PM
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1. There is very little I won't believe nowadays
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 06:30 PM by acmejack
Especially coming from our Government. They really show what they think of us don't they?
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:30 PM
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2. Fabulous! Yet another use for the underclass BushCo is busily creating.
Government agitators can foment a bit of insurrection, get people to take to the streets, then taser, gluegun, net, microwave, rubber bullet, beanbag, ultrasound and vomit-gas them into submission. That'll save the 'non-lethal' weapon manufacturers a fortune on trying to find paid volunteers to help with R&D.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:31 PM
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3. Well, we do need jobs...
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:31 PM
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4. I guess General Jack D Ripper has come out of retirement...
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:31 PM
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5. air force leadership needs to be CLEANED OUT.
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 06:32 PM by xchrom
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 08:00 PM
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19. I said essentially the same thing awhile back in my journal....
... and some of the geniuses around here went apeshit on me for "attacking the troops" or some stupid shit like that...

And our own fucking military wants to use its weapons against the very people it's supposed to protect.

Fucking jackasses.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:32 PM
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6. There's another way to read that but dunno if it was meant that way.
I see this is the non-lethal weapon debate again. A benign person would mean to say, "If this would be illegal and inhumane to use on US citizens because it's so unsafe that would be unconscionable, we should not be willing to use it against foreign civilians in a wartime situation."

Now if that's not what he meant then he's just a sadist and no more needs to be said about it...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:38 PM
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12. That's what I thought when I went to read it. But no.
Humane concerns are not on his mind. Public relations is his concern.

Protest and be permanently damaged. Protest and be treated like THE ENEMY. Use your constitutional rights and we will physically destroy you and, honey, there ain't never gonna be national health care in the United States.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:41 PM
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14. He seems to think using them without causing mass injuries is good PR
and hey, if this was Star Trek and we had weapons on Stun settings, maybe it would be good PR.

Now if you have no confidence that will be the actual outcome - I myself completely lack such confidence - this is precisely why politicians reading these comments should get scared and should be calling the White House right this minute.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:33 PM
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7. Martial Law, it's what the slow response in NOLA was all about.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:34 PM
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8. The ghost of Curtis LeMay rides again
:scared:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:35 PM
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9. He's gonna turn our bodies into easy bake ovens for PUBLIC RELATIONS.
What a guy. Doing a heckuva job.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:36 PM
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10. Hmmm.
"If we're not willing to use it here against Air Force Generals, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said RiF.



Hmmm.

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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:36 PM
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11. Use it after they lose in 06
Claim they won
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:41 PM
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13. IMPEACH HIM! Whent the Democrats take back congress...
they better take Secretary Michael Wynne to the cleaners.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:41 PM
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15. I think they always intended to us it on us....he is just opening the way.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:47 PM
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16. Oh, goodie! Another way to exploit a large prison population.
Whatever happened to honor? Whatever happened to our humanity? We've become an nation of outlaws and an outlaw nation. Why aren't we marching on Washington with buckets of hot tar, bags of feathers, and trucks filled with splinter-ridden rails?? What would it take to have a National Strike?

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:48 PM
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17. How long before he wants to test chemical weapons on us...
... like Saddam did on Iraqis? Would that win you public relations prizes Mr. Wynne? Sheesh!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:57 PM
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18. How long before they juice this device from....
'Stun' to 'Burn the Buns'?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 08:49 PM
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20. There's nothing in this "logic" that restricts it to nonlethal weapons. nt
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 09:36 PM
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21. Let's test it out on Air Force generals first
:mad:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 09:37 PM
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22. This is the Bush appointee saying this.
As it stands now, the civilian control is the weak link.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 09:40 PM
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23. When I saw thread about using microwaves on US citizens, I knew: AF
Air Force seems to harbor some pretty strange brass. And fundies have had WAY too much sway at the academy.

Only worry I have about the junta starting a war with Iran is the Air Force. Other branches know we can't pull it off with boots on the ground; not enough boots and the ones currently in use are very tired. But the Air Force, with the crowd of zealots they have in charge could sure as hell start a war from 45,000 feet then leave it to the ground troops to figure what comes next.

Too many crazies in AF brass
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