Newpaper columnist uses P911 as factual reference

[NJmaverick]

I almost fell off my chair reading this. I wrote Paul Mulshine an email telling him what I thought of him pushing P911 as factual.

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/mulshine/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1158037373269910.xml&coll=1

[IChing]

1. I hope Bill Clinton reads that paper

[EstimatedProphet]

2. What an idiot

I can't email him directly right now, so i will use this space to tell him that he is an idiot. Here goes...

Paul Mulshine, you are an idiot.

There. Any NJ DUers want to email him this link, so that we can make sure Paul Mulshine knows he's an idiot?

[NJmaverick]

18. I don't know about idiot

He is a republican and conservative. So this was more likely part of the disinformation campaign.

[EstimatedProphet]

21. therefore by definition, 'idiot'

Perhaps a 'useful idiot'

[NJmaverick]

22. I don't think idiot is the word

sleazy purveyor of right wing lies and deceptions would be may description

[EstimatedProphet]

25. OK. I'll buy that too

However, I do like to call him an idiot. :)

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Excellent!

More proof that it's dangerous to present biased fiction in this way. Kinda like the old Orson Welles War of the Worlds broadcast, but with less warning to the public that it was outre' fiction.

[symbolman]

6. We need to create a FACT ATTACK TEAM

Here at the DU and HAMMER people like this, AIM the Wrath of the DU on these Propagandaists with THOUSANDS of emails to themand their bosses..

Seriously, WE CAN POUND THESE PEOPLE to the point where they will be afraid to pass this crap on, threaten boycotts of their advertisers, etc.

FACT ATTACK TEAM, NOW!

[Jackpine Radical]

8. Hey, Symbolman, did I ever tell ya I like the way ya think?

Also dig your creative products.

[symbolman]

16. Thanks JR

I also like the way you think/post :)

[NJmaverick]

10. I agree

I doubt this was an isolated incident. In time the controversy will be forgotten, but the film will still exist (probably released with an unedited version in video). I would like to see DU take up arms against this guy, to set an example for the rest.

[SoCalDem]

13. Great idea.. facts are salad..propaganda is ice cream

Make them eat salad :)

[and-justice-for-all]

14. Make a well organized list of FACTS.....

...Something we can all just copy and paste and send to the WORLD. It should be to the point in as short of sentences so the Repukes will get it! To many big words and it will not register in their NeoCon brain.

[HuffleClaw]

4. and THAT is exactly why they aired it

so the usual suspects could forever reference it as 'truth'

[Rex]

5. Get use to it. That was the whole point in releasing the propaganda

now, before Americans go to the voting booths this Fall. The BFEE did it again and will continue to do the things that keep them in power. Cheating? What is cheating, compared to an illegal invasion of Iraq? The allowance/negligence of 9/11? Ignoring NOLA? Walking all over the American flag?

It will get worse.

[symbolman]

7. I don't want to get used to it

I want them to RUE the day they EVER created or pass this bullshit along, please see post number 6 - FACT ATTACK TEAM..

[Rex]

11. I don't either, but 6 years into a Constitutional Crisis

and we have what? What do we have to show for it? A handful of warmongers and petty tyrants? Mediocre, at best, leaders of industry? We don't even end up with a namebrand tyrant, just some schmuck with an astronomical losing streak.

F.A.T. I like it! :thumbsup: I'll volunteer for that! I would love to stick it to 'The Man'.

[gratuitous]

9. And this is exactly what I said would happen

There was no shortage of people before this dreck aired who said that it was just a teevee show, nothing to get too excited about, nobody would remember it three hours after it aired, and what's the big schmeal anyway?

Well, here it is. This is exactly what I knew would happen, and the little lying ripples from this schlockudrama would expand and be amplified and re-amplified through the Mighty Republican Wurlitzer, in outlets great and small, and dinned into people's heads until they actually believed that the Clinton administration had somehow "caused" the 9/11 attacks.

And you're right, Rex; it will get worse.

[Rex]

12. I hate that fact - it will get worse.

Like Bartcop says, 'what do you expect from a bank robber, when you open up the vault and let him in?'

Expect the same drek over and over and over. Until someone with Gravitas stands up and throws them out of office.

[Cobalt-60]

15. I'll bet he turned in book reports based on the movies, too.

[johnaries]

17. He quotes Micheal Schuer, the ex CIA analyst.

Schuer also said this:
"Mr. Clarke, of course, was at the center of Mr. Clinton's advisers, who resolutely refused to order the CIA to kill bin Laden. In spring 1998, I briefed Mr. Clarke and senior CIA, Department of Defense and FBI officers on a plan to kidnap bin Laden. Mr. Clarke's reaction was that "it was just a thinly disguised attempt to assassinate bin Laden." I replied that if he wanted bin Laden dead, we could do the job quickly. Mr. Clarke's response was that the president did not want bin Laden assassinated, and that we had no authority to do so." <8>, Washington Times Guest Editorial, July 5, 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scheuer

So, sending cruise missiles after someone is refusing to assasinate them? :wtf:

[B Calm]

19. They're boldly rewriting history right in front of our eyes.

[NJmaverick]

20. Yes! How do we stop them?

that is the critical question

[Hugin]

23. This is 'Phase III' used in Swiftboat tactics...

Typical Right Wing Noise Machine methodology.

I warned about it here in GD before that garbage aired, but, was summarily shouted
down by the 'keep the powder dry' folks.

*yawn*

[NJmaverick]

26. They do seem to be more organized and disciplined than

we are. If we could learn to be at good at getting out our truthful message, as they are at spreading lies.....

[Lone_Star_Dem]

24. No, I'm sorry there must be a mistake

The right gained nothing by airing P911. It's over forgotten and no longer a topic of discussion, at least not with anyone who matters that is. If you see or hear of someone who is speaking of it, it's because they were already the republican base.

See? No damage done here.