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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:17 PM
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We have 702 military bases in 132 countries
and our DOD spends over 460 billion dollars per year. All the other countries in the world combined only spend about 500 billion per year. Unreal!
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:18 PM
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1. We are making you safer LOL
By the way not all that money goes to bases it goes to black opps
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:27 PM
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2. More like making corporate interests safer.
:-(
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:29 PM
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3. Pax Americana
Roman redux
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:33 PM
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4. does that 460 billion include the costs of the Iraq occupation? . . . n/t
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:36 PM
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6. Yes
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:34 PM
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5. well, they are closing the one I went to high school at in Germany
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 12:39 PM by NVMojo
Baumholder

'American Army Place' Faces Uncertain Fate

By Craig Whitlock

BAUMHOLDER, Germany -- At Ulrich Jung's hair salon, rumors are flying about
the future of this small town in the rolling hills of southwestern Germany. One
customer with a buzz cut has heard that all the U.S. troops will leave by 2007.
Someone else has information that they will be gone sooner, perhaps within a
year.

Under either scenario, the town is in big trouble. There are more Americans in
Baumholder than there are Germans; about 12,000 U.S. soldiers and their family
members live here, compared with about 5,000 local residents. Other than the
military, there is no other industry or major employer to speak of. If the U.S.
Army leaves, many Germans say they might as well pack up and abandon the place,
too.

"We're standing with our backs against the wall," said Jung, whose family has
cut the hair of American soldiers since the first of them arrived in 1951. "We
feel like everything is out of our control." Added Bruno Braun, a leather
merchant whose store has catered to the U.S. military for a half-century:
"Baumholder is an American Army place, and that is it. There's nothing else."

Last month, the Bush administration announced that it was planning to withdraw
up to half of the 71,000 U.S. troops in Germany as part of a broad post-Cold War
restructuring. A top candidate for redeployment is the 1st Armored Division,
whose units are stationed at Baumholder and several other small and medium-sized
towns in western Germany.

On a national scale, the Americans' packing-up will have a serious impact on an
economy that in the post-World War II era has come to take military dollars for
granted. Thousands of Germans work on U.S. bases; the U.S. military estimates
that it adds more than $1 billion annually to the economy just in the
southwestern Germany's Kaiserslautern region, which includes five major Air
Force installations and 10 Army bases, including Baumholder.

By other estimates, military dollars account for about 20 percent of the
economy of Baumholder and the area around it.

It remains unclear where the Americans will go. But the U.S. European Command
has been considering opening bases in Poland, Romania and Bulgaria, whose
governments are lobbying hard to attract the forces.

During the height of the Cold War, more than 500 towns and cities in West
Germany hosted American soldiers, who helped rebuild the country after World War
II and stayed around to deter an invasion from the east. But the United States
has been reducing its footprint in Germany for 15 years, ever since the Iron
Curtain that divided the European continent came down.

While small towns such as Baumholder are lobbying against the U.S. withdrawal,
it has been greeted with general acceptance by many Germans, who say the moves
are inevitable and perhaps even overdue. It's hard to justify so many foreign
tank and infantry units when the only country on Germany's border that does not
belong to NATO these days is Switzerland, which is not exactly a threat.

"People say, Why do we need so many soldiers in Germany when we are in the
middle of Europe?" said Winfried Hermann, a member of the German Parliament from
the Green Party. "It's a kind of peace dividend that people expect." In fact,
the security calculus in the world has changed so much in recent years that some
Germans fret the Americans could present more of a target than a deterrent.

Hermann told of a recent visit to Heidelberg, where residents told him that
they were worried that the city's U.S. Army post might become a bull's-eye for
Islamic radicals. "People nowadays fear that the American Army or American
military installations could be the target of a terrorist attack," he said.

While polls show that a large majority of Germans are opposed to the U.S.
invasion and occupation of Iraq, and anti-Americanism has become more
pronounced, there has been little public objection to the continuing presence of
U.S. troops, many of whom have rotated in and out of Iraq since last year's
invasion.

Rather, many Germans say they will always appreciate what the U.S. armed
forces did to rebuild their country and open the way for reunification.

Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, whose government has opposed the U.S.-led war in
Iraq, said last week in a speech commemorating the 10th anniversary of the U.S.
military's departure from Berlin that many Germans perceived the withdrawal of
Allied troops as a loss.

"It was not about protection anymore, but about human beings to whom one would
not be as close any more," he said.

Some German cities that served as longtime hosts for U.S. forces have
reinvented their economies. In Hahn, for instance, a small town west of
Frankfurt, local leaders converted the old U.S. air base into a civilian airport
that is bustling these days with business from low-fare airlines.

Leaders in other former military towns say it can take years to recover
economically, but that it can work out for the better in the end. In Bad
Kreuznach, a city of about 44,000 people that is about an hour's drive from
Frankfurt, local officials predict that it will cost as much as $500 million
over 15 years to clean up and redevelop about 405 acres of land that the U.S.
Army used for a half century before departing in 2001.

More than 400 civilians in Bad Kreuznach were thrown out of work when the U.S.
military pulled out, but Mayor Andreas Ludwig hopes that a new industrial park
and other businesses will eventually provide more than 2,000 jobs. In an
interview in his office, Ludwig pulled out a giant map to show off the plans for
the former military sites: the old heliport is being turned into a giant
supermarket; the officers' club is now a Chinese restaurant and the school for
the children of U.S. soldiers now educates German students.

"In the long run, we hope to have many more jobs," he said. "Generally, the
economy is coming back. This size city could deal with it."

Ludwig, however, is less optimistic about the fates of smaller military towns
in more remote locations, such as Baumholder. "For Baumholder, it will be an
apocalypse," he said with a shrug.

Indeed, the mayor of Baumholder, Peter Lang, threw up his hands when asked
what the town will do if the U.S. Army departs. He acknowledged that other
businesses or industries are unlikely to come here to fill the void. He said it
would be up to the German government to step in and come up with a solution to
keep Baumholder from withering away.

"If the U.S. troops were to leave completely, this would be a task that would
be too big for us to handle by ourselves," said Lang, a Baumholder native who is
a military man himself, serving as a lieutenant colonel in the German army. "The
main problem is that this area has been too focused on the military for 50
years."

Until a final decision is made about which troops in Germany will leave,
residents of Baumholder said there was little they could do. But they figure a
little goodwill can't hurt. Businesses all over town have posted banners and
posters with intertwined U.S. and German flags, proclaiming in English:
"Baumholder -- We Belong Together!"





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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:50 PM
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7. We used to have one in Saudi Arabia, but OBL wanted us out...
So he attacked on 9/11 and Bush got us out, just like OBL wanted. OBL won; GWB lost.

The Prince Sultan Air Base was a technological marvel. Built in the vast flat plains of Saudia Arabia, it included the most sophisticated command and control system ever developed by the United States military. At a cost of more than $1 billion, it was intended not just to serve as a base to defend Saudia Arabia, but to project U.S. force in the Middle East. As late as 2001, the U.S. military was making improvements at the base.

The barracks were air conditioned to provide comfortable living from the 115 degree plus heat of the Arabian desert. The base had a swimming pool.

On Sept. 11th, 2001, 19 criminals hijacked four jet liners, crashing two of them into the World Trade Center towers, one into the Pentagon and a fourth into a Pennsylvania field.

The plan was masterminded by Osama bin Laden. His Al Quaeda organization had carried out other "guerrilla" style attacks, but this was the group's largest.

In April 2003, shortly after the initial phase of combat operations ended in the Iraq war, Rumsfeld held a press conference to announce the $1 billion-plus base was being closed. The U.S. was pulling the forces out of Saudia Arabia -- just as Osama bin Laden wanted.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/31/222820/860

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