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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 11:52 AM
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Agent Orange cancer findings won't get in report, Air Force says

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060910/NEWS01/609100325&SearchID=73256546796996


Study's chairman raises questions about decision to leave data out


Cancer findings described as potentially significant by the chairman of an advisory committee won't be in the final report of a 25-year government study of the effects of Agent Orange on Vietnam veterans.

The $140 million study of airmen who sprayed herbicides in a series of missions called Operation Ranch Hand was designed to be used as a basis for compensation for thousands of veterans. It ends Sept. 30.

The analysis showed a doubling in cancer rates among the highest-exposed veterans, according to information submitted to the advisory committee.

-snip-

Fox said the Air Force instructed the scientist who conducted the analysis to destroy the data.

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so there you have it -- the vets get screwed again

why does any american willingly join the military??

must be ignorance.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 11:54 AM
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1. An interesting aside
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Joe_VB Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:01 PM
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2. ignorance?
That's a pretty offensive comment to make about myself and all the other people here at DU who served.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:04 PM
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4. It bounces off after Nam use to it hate it but use to it
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Joe_VB Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:09 PM
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5. I guess I'm not used to it yet.....
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:20 PM
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6. why did you join?
nt
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Joe_VB Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:30 PM
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7. Why?
Because I could not afford or had the grades for college. And all the factory's were either closing down or moving south. So I joined the Navy. Served 10 years and got out with a marketable skill and a small amount of shrapnel in my leg.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 05:00 AM
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10. Had you known
you would be used as a guinea pig, exposed to lethal poisons, fed sewage and denied health care would you still have joined???

The lack of attention to this thread has me spitting tacks. Let me just K&R...
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Joe_VB Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:18 AM
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11. Honestly that is hard for me to answer.....
I was about out of options at that time in my life so if someone whipped out a crystal ball and told me about my future I don't know what I would have done.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:41 AM
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12. Woik wit me heah, Joe_VB
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 10:43 AM by Karenina
See the use of the word "ignorant" in the sense of lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified rather than a pejorative. Being ignorant of the military's function in America is no sin and you CERTAINLY have LOTS AND LOTS of company. The military is glorified and marketed as "a way up and out," indeed, in times of relative peace it has been. You NEVER read about Smedley Darlington Butler in high school. You were educated just as we ALL were, "WE are the GOOD GUYS."

Having been so duped, I can empathize with your feeling defensive. My point is, it isn't necessary. You made the best decision you could and Ol' Tante is NOT above filling a balloon with some foul liquid to heave at ANYONE pointing a finger of derision at you.

My bottom line is the U.S. *MIC is W-A-Y out of control. The VIOLATION OF TRUST cannot be tolerated. Kids from MY GENERATION are now homeless broken old men on the streets. STILL. THIRTY-FIVE FUCKING YEARS LATER. It is an ATROCITY.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:02 PM
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3. Sent this to Larry Scott VA watchdog.org thanks
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:54 PM
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14. Monkeyman, WTF is OFF
with folks here? I dare not rant at this moment, having just had a discussion at the local pub where my POV was understood by "furriners."
You post regularly about the FUCKING ABUSE and the threads drop like stones. Karenina, STFU and :kick:
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:36 PM
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8. They sure as hell don't want you to find out about depleted uranium
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 12:37 PM by JohnyCanuck
health hazards either.

Four Iraq War Vets Detained at Pentagon
Monday, 11 September 2006, 11:23 am
Press Release: Camp Democracy

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Online at: http://www.campdemocracy.org
Speakers available for interviews: http://www.campdemocracy.org/speakers

Four Iraq War Vets Detained at Pentagon

What: Press Conference with veterans who have been detained, and possibly arrested, at the Pentagon
When: 9:30 a.m., Sunday, Sept. 10, 2006
Where: Camp Democracy on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., near Fourth Street.

Four veterans of the current war in Iraq and one supporter (a total of five young men) were detained at the Pentagon today after they attended an open house and left behind flyers providing information about the lethal effects of depleted uranium.

The five (if released) and leaders of Iraq Veterans Against the War and of Veterans for Peace will hold a press conference at 9:30 a.m. tomorrow, Sunday, September 10, at Camp Democracy, on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., near Fourth Street.

The veterans observed literature available in the Pentagon's chapel, which is at the site of the 9-11 plane crash. This literature, produced at tax-payer expense, included copies of the New Testament in camouflage covers.

They left behind flyers explaining the effects of depleted uranium. Some of the vets detained currently suffer from depleted uranium poisoning.

The four vets are Steve Mortillo of Pennington, N.J.; Joe Hatcher of San Diego, Calif.; Geoff Millard of Buffalo, N.Y.; and Toby Hartbarger of Indiana. Also detained was Gregory "Tristan" Watson of Chicago, Ill.

Retired Col. Ann Wright said, "Iraq vets who have suffered the effects of depleted uranium have every right to educate others about the terrible effects of this illegal substance used in weapons produced by the United States government."

For more information see: http://www.campdemocracy.org

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0609/S00159.htm
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:53 AM
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13. kicking, thank you for this, I didn't know of the arrests
nt
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 11:23 PM
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9. kick n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:36 PM
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15. ...
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