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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:24 PM
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Does anyone else feel like I do that we make too much of 9/11?
IMHO we should have gone after what was left of the perpetrators and not gone to war in Afghanistan. We didn't need the Patriot Act, the Iraq war and the war on terror. I feel these are all bogus efforts re: PNAC. It is terrible that 3000 people died but our reaction is just as fucked up.
9/11 was not another Pearl Harbor but we have made it so. No country attacked us. A bunch of individual Saudis and others attacked us. I'm not so sure that Osama had anything to do with it.

I feel bad that we will now talk about 9/11 in the same terms that we talk about Pearl Harbor yet there is no comparison. History is being edited and rewritten as we speak.

I don't have any other way of putting it but to say I don't feel it was such a big deal. Other than the numbers killed, it should not be the turing point in our country's history. It is to me what the Reichstag was to Germany in the 1930's. Just a means for fascism to take over this country.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:27 PM
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1. More Than 3,000 Innocent People Die In The US Every Day...
for lack of proper medical care. I agree that the event is blown out of proportion, and I live in Manhattan and witnessed the 9/11 attacks first-hand.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:11 PM
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11. Not to mention the people who die because of our illegal war nt
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:28 PM
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2. FUCK YEAH
9/11 happened 5 years ago. Get over it.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:29 PM
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3. Don't you see--they did it TO US this time
instead of us doing it to them.

Big difference in the minds of many.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:29 PM
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4. Unfortunately...
like you've pointed out this administration saw 9/11 as political opportunity and ran with it full steam....now we're all paying a heavy, dangerous price...like I keep saying 'connect the dots and follow the money'...look hard and ask "who has benefited most politically and financially from this tradegy?"...why is no one asking such a question...hmmmm???
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:29 PM
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5. I think the Repiglicans are taking a BIG gamble when bringing up 9/11...
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 04:30 PM by Cooley Hurd
...hardly a shining moment in our history, and it happened under the Chimp's watch!:thumbsup:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:31 PM
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6. Last night I watched the PBS film on Katrina-one year later
In it where all these people who were stuggling and suffering and trying to piece some sort of life back together while trying to hold on to hope.

Then PBS aired this sappy promo for their show on 9/11 which would be airing today.

The people directly affected by the towers going down have had the support of the nation. The people of Katrina are stuggling and feel they are being forgotten.

No I do not care to listen to anything about 9/11 today knowing that our nation's attention is drastically needed in the Gulf area.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:33 PM
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7. 9/11 was a day for redistribution of wealth from the middle class
to the corp elitists and war profiteers. They salivate for another harvest.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:28 PM
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15. Amen. It's like the commercialization of Christmas. Ruins it.
All most americans see, whether on public assistance or a private yacht, is dollar signs.

We'll never change until we realize it's all about power and the $$ power brings.

That explains both 9/11 and Katrina and why the poor live in a flood zone to begin with.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:44 PM
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8. for some reason...
more than anything else 9/11 signifies the 'take-over'....as if it were over -night rather than over decades.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:53 PM
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9. A house that has never had anything political displayed, today
has a huge US flag streaming from their mailbox & under it a piece of plywood with the message:

9/11
Never Forget
USA #1


I almost spewed vomit all over the flag.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:11 PM
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10. More people die every day in third world
countries. The tsunami killed 200,000, we've killed at least 10 times as many Iraqis as died in 9/11. Our own troops killed will pass the number of dead in 9/11 pretty soon.
Katrina killed half as many and they KNEW it was coming. Unbelievable.
It's all propaganda - be afraid, be very afraid!
I heard the only comment that Shrub made today was that these memorials reminded him that there are still people out there who would try kill Americans...blah, blah., blah. Just let me do whatever I want because THOSE PEOPLE are EVIL! EVIL, I tell ya! :puke:
Carte Blanche to f*ck up our country. :eyes:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:26 PM
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12. Bush has failed us in his first term and made things worse in his second
Two more years, as Hillary put it; "a failed policy"
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:35 PM
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13. I think the media makes way too much of it
Her's an example. For at least 2 years following 9/11, WTOP in DC would start at least 1 story every 15 minutes, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, with the words "Since 9/11" or "Since the tragedy of 9/11" or something similar, followed by a story about how things are different. They worked overtime to bang the drum.

WTOP is a popular station in DC because it's an all-news format. People listen to it in their cars while commuting, in their offices in the background too. That's a lot of messages out there that '9/11 changed everything'. And this is just 1 radio station. From what I saw, all the media was spouting this message, and has been for the last 5 years.

In my opinion, what the media is doing takes closure away from us. We can't get over what happened because they won't let us get over it. It's like continually picking at a scab.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:22 PM
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14. I agree 100% Well, 95% (I think that Osama bin Laden had something to do
with it)

400,000 Americans die every year from tobacco related illnesses. Should we have a War on Smokers?

50,000 Americans die each year from drunken driving accidents. Should we we send the military to all the bars in the US?

The Bush Administration has overreacted in order to maintain political power. They are playing to the macho instincts of Americans. Solid police work is the best way to fight terrorism, not by starting a fucking war (the British have proved this). But one of the Right Wing's favorite talking points is that we are at war and that fighting terrorism with law enforcement is the sissy's way to do it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:31 PM
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16. As bad as 911 was...everything that came after it has been worse
911 didn't change anything for the nation much less the world...the US government's reaction to 911 did.

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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:32 PM
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17. Dangerous ground but I agree. Most countries deal with this often.
Suddenly, when it's our turn, terror is real.

Go spend 15 minutes in Sudan, or working in a chinese or indan sweat shop, and suddenly, there are serious problems in the world, that dwarf your gas prices or the inconvenience of addressing global warming. Or driving an old, unimpressive car.

I want what I want and I want it now.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:35 PM
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18. We must keep rehashing it over and over,
touching the emotional moments because collectively the USA didn't get the lesson. The GOPig Ditto monkey politicians that took over in 1994 needed to go! Years of voting pro-corporation conservative left us in a position so that 19 punks could destroy one of our major financial centers and hit the pentagon. Those fat swarmy pigs like Gingrich, Delay, Hyde, W, Cheney, all that shit had to go, 9/11 proved them useless worms. Instead we pumped in more sewage into our political system so the USA needs more patriotic denial to make the people feel better. The date should be a date of shame that we moved away from not a Karl Rove national holiday.
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