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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:11 PM
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Is there ANY way Harvey Keitel lives this down....
This was so bad, Harvey came off as a bad actor.

A career ender??? :shrug:
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:12 PM
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1. I personally am not feeling especially merciful
After all, he stepped into it himself.

Foresight is WAY better than hindsight.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:13 PM
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2. Not with me.
I loves me some Harvey! I've been a fan for years; one clunker won't change it. But what a clunker!
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:14 PM
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3. Damn
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 10:15 PM by Kire
I was stuck at the airport. The president was in town for the ceremony at Ground Zero, so they diverted all the planes.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:14 PM
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4. One word :

Ishtar.

Those actors somehow survived.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:15 PM
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5. he's a non-starter in Hollywood after this. Better if he said he was gay.
Then at least he would be more interesting.

Now he's just a stupid shmuck that was a tool.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:15 PM
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6. Nah, I don't think it's a career ender.
He's been in some turkeys before. I can't think of them, but I know he's been in some.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:19 PM
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8. It's one thing to be in Ishtar, another to be a nitwit RW dupe....
He is probably reading his scripts more, if any, and is shopping for a new agent.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:15 PM
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7. Is the movie really bad? Aside from the fact that we hate it.
Is it just a bad movie?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:20 PM
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9. Occasionally, the camera would pause for two or three seconds...
but most of the time, it would cut about once a second.

No human interest. No continuity. And the worst dialog I can remember outside of Ed Wood.

Aside from that, boffo.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:20 PM
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10. Your duct-taped goose is more eloquent. 'Nuf said.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:41 PM
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24. I rented a movie. Therefore, I am ignorant. Ignorance is bliss.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:40 PM
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22. Let me put it this way: I almost called to order some "Head-On"
from that goofy commercial (different channel as I was desperately looking for something watchable)
:D
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:20 PM
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11. He should have stuck to nude wrestling with Kirk Douglas
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:25 PM
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12. my understanding is that he was presented
with a credible assessment... and when he learned of this nonsense, he said ABC should pull it... so I don't think all folks involved got the same pitch
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:28 PM
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14. but wouldn't he know where it was going based on the script ?
before he actually did the movie ?

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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:33 PM
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18. but he had the co-chair of the 911 committee lending his
backing to this project, he was told it was a historical drama of sorts... he did not know that it was this politically loaded
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:38 PM
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21. I'm told he sensed the script was inaccurate so he hired...
an investigator and then personally rewrote much of his dialog to be more historically accurate.

Imagine what the original script must have been like. :rofl:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:40 PM
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23. well, he doesn't seem all that informed about politics
he should have asked one of the Dems on the committee also rather than Republican Kean.

and even without asking anyone i would have known it was a bunch of crap.

but i am glad he is speaking out now. and i hope he continues to do it.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:42 AM
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29. A lot of times actors are only given their pages and out of order.
They just get whatever is being filmed and it all gets pieced together. If this is the tactic the director used, then it's really hard to know the actual story line until it's too late.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:28 PM
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13. I thought his career was already ended - he hasn't been in anything lately
n/t
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tarndter Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:28 PM
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15. Keitel should be in...
...JAIL!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:41 AM
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28. Yet another newbie adding a lame non sequitor to the discussion.
Welcome to DU, trandter.

MKJ
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:28 PM
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16. Is it not odd that actors never see their work in a final form?
Is this some Hollywood tradition? By all means do not let any of the actors see anything!

He only started squealing when the dime got dropped on ABC/Jobney.

I assume his checks cleared the bank?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:29 PM
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17. Memo to Harvey: FIRE YOUR AGENT! nt
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:34 PM
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19. That and pretend your gay. Works on two levels.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:37 PM
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20. I never could figure out which guy he was. The only time I ever
remember seeing him in a movie was that weird one about the vampires down in Mexico...the one with
George Whatshisname...but then I don't watch many movies...;-)
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:08 PM
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25. He's a dope for not walking off the set
i've lost respect for him. Sucker.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:38 AM
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26. .
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:40 AM
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27. Next stop for Harvey
Branson MO and Praise the Lord TV
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:42 AM
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30. Who is this Harvey Keitel?
NEVER HEARD OF HIM!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:45 AM
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31. The star of "Freeper Madness" aka "The Path to 9/11" aka...
"Path 9/11 from Outer Space"
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:47 AM
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32. I've Xed him from my memory banks!
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 07:52 AM by Hubert Flottz
Who needs him?

Harvey Keitel is a man who loves money and hates his country.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:49 AM
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33. He could give another $13,000 to the Party
That would be a start.

As for the acting, it was so unmemorable that no one will remember it. They will remember Harvey in his truly great roles.

All they will remember of this is that a good actor and a good Democrat got suckered into being in a RWPOS.

Isn't the first time!
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