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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:21 PM
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I received a very unsettling email today from Cindy Sheehan
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 07:20 PM by az chela
She said that people now are saying the she is irrelevant and unimportant!!!!
Since I love Cindy dearly this breaks my heart.
She took on the bush administration with no support except her great desire to stop the war and get rid of the current evil administration.Last year she spent almost the entire year traveling all over the world to tell people the truth about bushco.Before that no one gave a shit.When the high numbers of death and injuries started coming out about our troops and the phony war and the billions of dollars that this administation was making while caring about no one except their base and how much money they could make.So what is a human life worth???How much is an iraqi's life worth.The people that support bush think this is a war that has to be fought over there so it wont be fought here.That is insane.
The Iraqi's NEVER were a threat to us.Saddam was giving bush everything he wanted but cheney and bush want the oil.Halliburton has become filthy rich and the carlyle group is gaining strength from all of this.
We have lost our rights ,our freedoms and have truly become one nation under the right wing christian god who is a god of war and vengence.If you doubt this read about jehovah in the old testament.Anyone who didnt follow his beliefs and worship him were killed!!!!Sound familiar?????This once great nation is now hated by most of the war and over 50 percent of the people here are ashamed of what the us has become.
I say if you cant support Cindy and the anti war movement than you need to get your priorities straight!!!!!Are you aware that Cindy risked her life and has been in the hospital 5 times in the last 2 months so that she could keep putting the truth out??
I thank you Cindy Sheehan from the bottom of my heart for all you have done and I do not believe that you are irrelevent,you are a true hero and anyone who doesnt see that should have to walk a mile in your shoes.If we lose you it is this worlds loss.You have paid such a very heavy price and we shall overcome.
GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:22 PM
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1. Ask Cindy what we can do. Where she will be. how we can join her.
She is neither irrelevant nor unimportant. And she never will be. :hug:

She is ENORMOUSLY important as we go into the elections. For instance, if she comes to campaign for Lamont I will drive many miles to be at a rally with her.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:29 AM
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51. If you want to end this occupation you have to hit GOP contributors in the
wallet.

I suggest going to www.ge.com and tell them you will not buy any more General Electric products until the GOP holds a press conference announcing that the government will withdraw US troops to the periphery of Iraq or where they stood before the invasion.

General Electric has mail forms on their web site. GE gives money to the GOP and of course makes products for the armed forces as well as consumer products.

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:36 AM
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56. If the warmongers are saying she is irrelevant,
then she is scaring them! She is more powerful than she knows.

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:07 PM
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67. It does not denigrate their service to tell the truth

What you describe is what the neocons play on...people fear making the troops feel bad or dishonored by speaking about a unethical mission their government sent them on....

With all due respect, I don't agree. What denigrates their service more...

Allowing a criminal government to use them as pawns in a illegal, unethical war by remaining silent?

Or, demanding truth and accountability from the government who abuses their service?

I believe that you support the troops by educating yourself about the government's actions, and demanding their service be honored. They NEVER should be abused in the way the Bush administration has done. I fought hard before the war to try my individual best to prevent this atrocity from occurring. And, I will continue to fight until the atrocity stops.

And, here is the hardest part that hardly anyone will say. At what point does a man or woman in the service say...no. I won't do this...It is morally wrong and against what I joined to serve this nation for...The administration is only a handful of people. It takes obedience and subservience to their crimes to perpetrate them and allow them to continue. Should soldiers always follow orders lockstep and unquestioned, even when they know that what they are doing is wrong? Tough stuff. But, a needed discussion.
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Wanda_Truth Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:47 PM
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69. what we can do. Where she will be. how we can join her? CAMP DEMOCRACY!!!
Cindy wants more than a GO CINDY! Anyone who is close enough to DC is supposed to go an join her WE NEED NUMBERS PEOPLE! (anyone seen V for Vendetta(without the explosions of course))

A Day a Camp Democracy
I woke up at 5:30 AM to catch a 6:20 train to Philly, where I caught a train from Philly's 30th street station to Washington's Union Station. I walked about half mile from there to the mall where Camp Democracy was set up. Entering it, there was a 30 foot high inflated figure, like one of thsose parade floats, in the shape of George Bush, with a very long nose and a a big sign on it-- "impeach me." They called it Bushnoccio.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_rob_kall_060910_a_day_at_camp_democr.htm

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Wanda_Truth Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:54 PM
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71. Cindy FEELS Irrevelant because of lack of support
She is in DC protesting this administration and the war in Iraq at least until September 21, the 9/11 Truth movement is going to make an appearance there soon....but no one seems to know about it.

Why doesn't anyone seem to know about this extended protest that could be an important (see Ukranians, Mexicans, other countries who care about their democracy) meaningful and successful way to support Cindy. Where's MOVEOn? World Can't Wait? Why isn't PDA helping to support it? What about William pitt? Where is Afterdowningstreet.com?

It would sure be cool if Camp Democracy recieved as much attention as some of the other subjects on DU. Personally I am tired of the complaining. We need to DO SOMETHING PEOPLE! ARRGGGGHHHHH.

Who thinks we can wait for another stolen election?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:23 PM
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2. I support Cindy and her work.
Americans generally focus on what is bright, shiny and new, and Cindy no longer is in their view. She just needs to stand by her beliefs and be patient. She will prevail because she is right. She is calling the world to peace. She can't go wrong.
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rrasile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:30 PM
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63. Support those who stand up
From the start I admired this woman but I began noticing how the Right and the Media portrays her.
I believe she needs some expert help portraying her person.
It's great to read and see how she can sit down and have a cold beer with a common person but she should know by now that when there's a chance she will be photographed she should look the best she can. I believe that her supporters would gladly give a little money to fix her hair and put some clothes on her so she can pass as someone other then a sixties protester.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:55 PM
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65. Uh.. are you joking?
Yeah lets get her a lawyer, a PR person and a personal assistant so the neo's can jump on the news and claim she's being coached. Frankly I find your 60's protester characterization insulting to her and to the 60's protesters who put an end to the Vietnam war. Regardless of what people think Cindy didn't start this because she's a protester or because she hates Bush or whatever the new neo-con spin is. She did it because lost her child in a pointless war and will have to live with that forever. This started as part of her greiving process and it blew up into what it is now. She didn't plan on this but when she became the voice of the anti-war movement she rose to the occasion and now speaks for many families who lost children in this pointless, illegal war. She doesn't need handlers or advice she needs support.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:06 PM
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73. Maybe you mean well....but I think you have been
drinking too many lattes and reading too many Glamour Magazines.

You are the one who needs some help...not Cindy. You need some consciousness raising and a big serving of de-programing. Goddess, who brainwashed you? The patriarchy has got a hold of you and told you that everything women do is second rate. And of course, women are nothing if they aren't manicured, coiffed, thin, shaved, and dressed in Chanel.

EEEEEEEEKKKKKKK! I am having a deja vu back to 1955. HELP!
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:27 PM
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77. Yeah, because your hairstyle and nail polish color is what's important
when your son has been killed in a war based on lies, and you're fighting to stop that war.

What a very childish and silly post.

What are you doing to help bring an end to this war, by the way? Just wondering how much time YOU'RE spending getting your hair and nails done so you can make sure you're not mistaken for a "sixties protester" when you're out FUCKING PROTESTING.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:24 PM
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3.  Kick for Cindy
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:25 PM
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4. She has the admiration of many people who consider her
a very brave woman. She will never be irrelevant. That's just some freeper BS being fed to her probably directly from KKKarl Rove's office.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:26 PM
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5. They have been saying that for a long time ,and she has proved
she is relevant,, otherwise they wouldn't keep attacking her.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:26 PM
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6. Then Cindy's listening to the wrong people! I love and respect
her, and she has paid a price no one should have to pay to forward the prospect of peace.
Please send love and regards to my favorite Gold Star Mom!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:26 PM
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7. Cindy is a true American hero
I know the last months have taken a toll on her. I believe she is the one who cracked the verneer of the media and allowed truth to slowly seep out when they could no longer ignore her quest.
The world needs Cindy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:26 PM
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8. Tell Cindy to take heart - the same has been said about many stellar
figures. They said it about Gore and he has an important film topping all must see lists now.

They said it about Dean after the primaries and he is now Chairman of the DNC.

They said it about Kerry and he is still kicking ass in the senate and submitting important legislation and oversight.

They are saying it about the Jersey Girls and we haven't heard the last of them and their impact.

Take heart Cindy. Don't let ANYONE get you down.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:42 AM
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46. Excellent post blm
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 01:45 AM by Catrina
Not to mention:

Martin Luther King
Ghandi
Nelson Mandella

And not to forget how they smeared and silenced:

General Shinseki
Paul O'Neill
Scott Ritter

And although he still speaks out, they did attempt to silence Richard Clark.

Throughout history there have been so many other heroic people, who, like Cindy, stepped forward when no one esle was willing to do so, and who in their lifetimes, were mocked and ridiculed and called traitors and irrelevant.

I will never forget that she, Cindy, with a few other heroic people, broke through the veil of fear and opened the door for the rest of us to be less fearful of speaking out.

After 9/11 the atmosphere in this country silenced a lot of people. Cindy was made it okay again for Americans to begin to speak out.

She is a wonderful woman, warm, sincere and real. We need many more like her. The vicious rightwing always attacks and smears those who threaten them. And she threatened them because she spoke the truth and they cannot bear for the truth to be spoken.

I will never forget her for what she did. Last summer she personally showed the country what a real coward George Bush is. She made him look like a cowardly fool, running away and hiding from the mother of a dead soldier.

Tell her to rest and get her strength back. Even if she did nothing else, she started the ball rolling and probably did more to expose this man who occupies the WH for what he is than anyone else could have done even if they tried.

Thank you Cindy ~ we love you.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:27 PM
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9. anyone can contact Cindy through this site....
http://gsfp.org/



Go Cindy! :yourock:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:27 PM
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10. Tell Cindy she's winning, whether she knows it or not.
Tell her the avalanche of Truth is headed downhill, and she helped to start it!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:27 PM
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11. I head Amy Goodman speak and it's obvious she thinks of Cindy as
someone who is behind a movement of mothers, important and relevant.

But Amy speaking is not the same as someone dismissive like Victoria Toensing Condaleeza Rice Hutchinson/Dole speaking.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:28 PM
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12. Well, that is very strange, seeing as how
she wrote an open letter saying she WAS GLAD she was irrelevant and unimportant..that meant the movement could move foreward on its' own momentum and she could rest. We should let her rest for awhile and take the burden on ourselves.
It was posted here, I'll try to find it.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:28 PM
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13. Regardless of what happens in the future, Cindy started the
anti war movement. So what if someone else finishes it. One person cannot do everything. I am sure that she will have a bright future.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:28 PM
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14. Everyone gets discouraged at times and buys into the RW spin.
Cindy has our support and our gratitude today just as she always has had them.

We're still here and still on board.

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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:29 PM
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15. Please don't take this the wrong way, but in some ways that's true.
The country is divided into 3 groups concerning Cindy. Those who love her, those who hate her and another group who don't care one way or the other...and as much as I hate to say it, I seriously doubt more than a tiny minority of any of those groupls would change their minds - in either direction, for any reason.

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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:03 AM
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50. Actually you're wrong, never give up, never lose hope
I just lifted this from the home page of DU:

"according to a poll by Zogby international. 58 per cent of respondents believe the war in Iraq has not been worth the loss of American lives, up two points since August," posted by Mark E. Smith.

Up two percent, and likely to grow. There is also this on the home page:

"The officials described Col. Pete Devlin's classified assessment of the dire state of Anbar as the first time that a senior U.S. military officer has filed so negative a report from Iraq." from the Washington Post.

The more our policies remain the same, the more our failure in Iraq grows, and the more Americans come to realize they have been duped, stolen from, and attacked from within their own government. The taste of blood eventually turns sour for decent people, once they realize there were no lofty goals to justify it.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:29 PM
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16. First they tried to shut her up, then they tried ridicule
now they are saying she is irrelevant.

If she was ridiculous and irrelevant, then the rightwing nuts wouldn't bother wasting their time by continuously attacking her.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:24 AM
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52. "First they ignore you...
then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:31 PM
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17. Who the hell said that about Cindy? RWNJ's?
She's very relevant and very important.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:50 PM
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26. Yes, who are these 'people'?
Fair-weather friends? People who wanted to ride her coattails to fame and fortune?

She's endured enough abuse from RWNJs andthe CM in general and come out unfazed. Why does criticism hurt her in this case?

She knows her true friends and her message is still the same.

For what noble cause did my son die?
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:31 PM
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18. Someone needs to advise her on a few things.
1) she is absolutely wonderful for taking on the bush admin.
2) Stop the hairbrain ideas like going on a hunger strike in aug in texas heat. Like DUH! If she isnt well, she is nothing but a liability to the cause.
3) Keep fighting.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:15 PM
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74. If you have read anything about civil disobedience,
you would know that Hunger Strikes are common and powerful. Please google and read about how they have been used throughout history. Dick Gregory and Ghandi and many others have used Hunger Strikes.

She has recently had major surgery...and I think she cut her recuperation period too short because she wanted to be at Camp Democracy.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:34 PM
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19. She was a catalyst
and a vital one and now I hope she looks to her health and family and rests. Irrelevance is not always a bad thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:34 PM
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20. she verde off the anti war path to other places
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 06:34 PM by seabeyond
i will always respect and support her for her anti war stance and her courage to stand up to bush and squat in crawford. awesome work
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:36 PM
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21. Anyone who has anything bad to say about Cindy is a reTHUG.
Cindy needs to know this, because it is obvious that the ugly evil reTHUGS are behind a co-ordinated smear job of her. Real progressives and real liberal dems support her a 100%! Those who don't support Cindy are retHUGS. Simple as that!!!

Thank you Cindy! :yourock:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:39 PM
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22. Cindy: It is normal to feel "down" after surgery. You've done more than
you will ever know.

The movement you started is bigger than we are, now. Rosa Parks sat down on that bus. That was enough. You sat down in a ditch. That was enough. Please focus on your own wellness right now Cindy, and don't let the lying bastards get to you.

Gratefully,

Elena
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:43 PM
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23. For what noble cause?
With the release of the Senate Iraq Intelligence Report, she has the opportunity to be more relevant than ever. She needs to latch on to that report and get back to her original 'crusade' - demand an answer to the question 'for what noble cause'. The report proves Bush knew they were lying about the reasons to go to war - so why did Bush really choose war instead of peaceful diplomacy and continued inspections, in accordance with the IWR. That's what we need Cindy to do.

But no matter what, she will never be irrelevant.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:44 PM
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24. The PowerBrokers INSIDE the Democratic Party,
the DC Elite insiders, The CorporMedia Hierarchy, and the DLC have always tried to marginalize Cindy and the Grassroots. THEIR Power and Income is threatned by the Grassroots.

If you love Cindy, and believe that True Democracy places the POWER in the hands of the Grassroots, just continue to support her. Take comfort in the recent successes of the Grassroots.

The Beltway Democrats are scared, as they should be.

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.





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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:45 PM
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25. Bull
Cindy's influence may be waning a bit because a) the novelty of it all has worn off a bit and b) she has already MADE an impact. But irrelevant? Probably more than any other single voice, hers was the most important in getting the ball rolling and people talking. Doesn't sound "irrelevant" to me.

Now the ball is rolling, and the national conversation on this topic is (finally!) in full swing. That's called success. If she feels her voice is growing smaller, it is only because so many other voices, too long silent, have joined the fray.

I hope she takes a moment to regard the magnitude of her successes. That should be sufficient to overcome any feelings of discouragement she may encounter from time to time. Speaking strictly for myself, I'm freakin' proud of her.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:53 PM
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27. I see Cindy's work and role as crucial
I think she's done and continues to do a ton to bring people who would not ever have spoken out to do so, and I think she's a great example of how much difference one person can make. And that's just for starters.

Of course it gets discouraging sometimes. Maybe even most of the time. As far as I'm concerned, she can ask for strokes from us any old time!
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 07:05 PM
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28. That is unsettling...
I never thought this was about Cindy Sheehan being relevant or important. If only I had known.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 07:07 PM
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29. Cindy is only 1 person. I stand with her.
Cindy cannot do it all and is relevant by being a catalyst. She did not mean to, but it happened. She cannot be it all, cannot carry everything for everyone, can only be 1 person, doing what she does. The same can be said for each and every one of us.

Onward and peace.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 07:19 PM
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31. The visionaries will come forward to lead...
I see her, then and now, as a true visionary and
revolutionary. These are the people who are stepping forward,
at great personal risk, to speak the truth and lead us out of
this hole. She is just awesome.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 07:31 PM
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32. Indeed, and they lead by accident, by having followers rather than leading
if that makes sense. True leaders get followers, do not parade around yelling "I am the leader!". She just did what she did and we joined her. She is awsome.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 07:19 PM
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30. People always said that about her, but it wasn't true. - n/t
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:02 PM
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33. Tell her she is wrong, her work is very important,
and never to forget that. Never lose heart.
Tell her just to keep going and follow what she knows
is right. Who cares what others are saying?
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:08 PM
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34. Are you able to post her message in its entirety?
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 09:22 PM
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35. it was a personal email she sent me but she had writtten an article
about 2 weeks ago.Not sure I have it but if I do I will let you know
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 09:41 PM
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36. Tell Cindy to eat
she cannot use her full capability to help everyone if she is sick and tired, and if you don't eat that's what happens.

If she starves to death she may be mocked as a martyr, but if she pays attention to her health and diet, she can make them ALL POUND SAND.

Eat lady, eat - depression comes from lack of nutrition, low blood sugar, having surgeries you need to heal, that takes new components from food.

Eat so we have you longer, so you live to see the END of this TYRANNY :)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 09:56 PM
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38. ugh hmm. Depression could come from loosing your son to a pack of
lies and a serial killer don't you think? Eating would probably help though I agree, but sometimes a person gets soooooooooo depressed they don't want to eat. She needs loving people around her right now. People that love her specifically.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 09:54 PM
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37. WTF! She must be worn out the poor thing. Irrelevant? Not a chance!
She has done more for the peace movement singlehandedly than anyone in America. When I think of peace I think of her! Damn it! What can we do?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:40 AM
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39. Cindy is so relevant toward moving the force of inaction
into more and more people taking action. You do remain important to so many of us here in America. Peace to you Cindy.
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:40 AM
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40. Wait a minute folks
Cindy said this over a month ago, and in her own words:

...Thanks be to God for irrelevance. Now I can go home and get my strength back, spend time with my kids, and prepare for true and lasting peace.

Peace is the noble cause that I have been pursuing ever since Casey was killed.

Camp Casey will never be irrelevant as long as the military industrial complex runs roughshod over our government and our country. <snip>

Peace will never be irrelevant as long as war is used as a diplomatic tool.

A huge weight has been lifted off of my shoulders now. The anti-war movement is strong and thriving and it no longer needs a "face." I have been promoted to irrelevancy and am feeling pretty darn good about that accomplishment! The Iraq war will end with or without me and our troops will come home sooner than later. However, the war machine is already preparing for the next war as public opinion against this one will force a change in policy.

I am moving on up to the peace movement. I hope one day, in my lifetime, that war will become irrelevant.


To put the above in the correct context, please be sure to read the whole diary. She is only "irrelevent", in the sense that the majority of Americans now support her view regarding Iraq. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think we should take our cue from her. We have before.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:57 AM
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41. I made this video for Cindy "Flashing Peace"
Tell her to watch it. And remind her that the seeds she planted are taking root everywhere.

Get well Cindy! You are the Joan of Arc of the peace movement. We need you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiJSg_lQlnw
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:01 AM
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42. Sign the Declaration of Peace and get involved!!!!
This is going to be the next big step and there are activities planned all around the country:
http://www.declarationofpeace.org/
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:04 AM
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43. maybe people have other things to do?
i mean, shes not the only part of the movement going on you know.

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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:07 AM
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44. Cindy is a symbol of what is best in our nation, she is driven by love &
the rightness of her beliefs, I spent time with her groups when she has passed near my home. As long as people like Cindy exist, I still believe there is hope that we will out live these terrible times we are living in. She is so much like that light at the end of the tunnel, that light (Cindy) shines as our salvation against the likes of the present admin and its obviously corrupt individuals. More and more people are coming to realize the truth of Cindy's message.

:kick:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:38 AM
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45. Bushco is STILL in powe and people are STILL dying?
I would say she is still very relevant.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:45 AM
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47. what people is she talking about ? FUCK THEM
there are trolls who would lie to her. and there are ignorant assholes who would do that.

but most people who are critical of the administration are fans of Cindy and appreciate what she is doing.

tell her to ignore the assholes.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:02 AM
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48. could someone make sure Cindy sees this thread, please> . . . n/t
.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:37 AM
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49. Cindy is far from irrelevant and unimportant
Her steadfast resistance to accept the administrations' lies and treasonous behaviour is an inspiration to people everywhere, not just in the US.

I can feel her exhaustion from your description and I hope people around her helps her carry the weight.

God bless Cindy Sheehan
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:28 AM
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53. Cindy will be speaking at a bookstore near me
at the end of September, in connection with her book "Peace Mom, A Mother's Journey Through Hertache to Activism".
I fully intend to go, and I think there will be a large crowd of people there to hear her speak and support her.
I don't know how many other bookstores throughout the country she will be appearing at, but I can imagine that a book
tour must be exhausting.
Her tireless efforts along with her health problems have got to have taken their toll on her. What she has already
accomplished seems almost super-human to most of us.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:04 PM
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66. We should all support Cindy by buying a copy of that book!
I know I will! :bounce:

Anyone have a list of where she will be signing books?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:34 AM
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54. I salute Cindy Sheehan on this day. Because of the fight she has taken..
Thank you, Cindy. You are a great American.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:47 AM
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55. Cindy is a true intellectual who is a beacon of light for all of the
world's thinking people!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:07 AM
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57. This is how success works.
Cindy is an American hero.

She was so successful at getting the American people to see her point, that at the pinnacle, she probably feels she is no longer making a difference. But that is what success is... the endpoint of a tireless campaign that WORKED.

Cindy should realize that her initial job is essentially done (in that there's practically nobody else left to convince) and find another campaign to latch onto. Or take a breather for her own mental/physical health.

Cindy, you did your country proud, and made a real difference. Feel good about that.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:26 AM
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58. exactly what i think! she's feeling the strain of the Camp Casey success.
you can't go back to that once it's happened. nothing will ever seem as momentous as the first pheonmena. like ken kesey said, 'you have to graduate." take the lessons and move on the next thing.



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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:13 AM
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59. She is very relevant for me and so many others I know. I stand with her
everyday. She is the most courageous person I've seen in a long time. What she has done is very important. She should have been the "Woman of the Year" in any venue that has any such award. I want Cindy to know she is a light in the sky for me that I can look to when I feel there is nothing one person can do. :kick:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:14 AM
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60. Unfortunately, under Bushco, we are ALL irrelevant
Unless you are Haliburton or KB&R...

You are irrelevant.

Welcome to the Corporateocracy

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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:20 AM
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61. What Cindy may not realize is that she's done her job.
The tide is turning in no small part because of her. But, this isn't and never has been about "Cindy" and I'm sure she knows that.

Thanks Cindy for all you've done. You have changed the world for the better, your son did not die in vein, and your outspoken truth has helped open the eyes of America. Now, it is time to REST if you're able.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:36 PM
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64. Don't worry about relevence of Self, worry about the Fight.
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 12:37 PM by Drum
No one gets to walk in the front of the parade forever.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:39 PM
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68. She's about as irrelevant as Daniel Ellsberg.
In other words, she has played a vital leadership role in opposing an idiotic war, and her actions will have a positive effect on the world for many years to come.

If she needs to take a break, she should take a break. But I hope she will use her considerable talents in just causes in the future. She is a great person to have on our side, and a great American hero.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:51 PM
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70. "Before that no one gave a shit" - BOLLOCKS
I hate how people make this all about Cindy Sheehan's cult of personality. I know it's too much to ask of a lot of folks to look at the issue, but damn, people...
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:19 PM
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72. She spoke up she won't be forgotten
She is still consumed with grief. We should not expect her to lead a movement for us. We all need to be leaders in our own right and share the burden with her.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:20 PM
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75. FReepers have ALWAYS called Cindy "irrelevant"
And that's on a good day. On a bad day, one of them might actually walk up to her and say, to her face, "Fuck you and fuck your son." I kid you not. I only wish this were a sick joke.

Me, I support Cindy. The only reason I didn't go to Camp Casey this summer was family health problems. But the next time Cindy's down in Crawford, we'll make every effort to join her once again.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:24 PM
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76. Perhaps Cindy is having post-surgery depression
Seriously. Going through a serious illness and surgery (especially on the heels of the death of a loved one) can bring some depression with it. If I were her, I would get a good therapist and possibly meds on a temporary basis.

If she had a hysterctomy, there might be some hormonal issues as well.
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Brian Stevens Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 05:22 AM
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78. Cindy needs to PUSH THE ENVELOPE
til it can never be pushed anymore.
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