Is a bl*w job the ONLY Impeachable offense?

[LibraLiz1973]

For the life of me I can not understand how Bush is managing NOT to be impeached. He's lied, broken the law, cheated, stolen, evaded, misled and taken us into a faulty war. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE????

Is there NO ONE who can DO something about this?!?!?! I think it's time to get that asshole out of office- 2008 is to far away. With his track record I think we can clearly see that he will screw the country even more.

It's embarrassing to realize that Clinton was impeached for what was, for all intents and purposes, a family matter. Bush is being caught out on national security issues but it seems everyone is powerless to stop him. Why is that?

I'm serious about this- why do you think he isn't being impeached? Is there ANYTHING that we as citizens can do?

[kimmerspixelated]

1. Well number one

Is the Republican Congress. Two is the fact the Bushies,Cheney, Rove and the neocons run the government like mafiosos. Y'know- hey I'm gonna have to break yur legs, or oh, I'm sorry but an unfortunate accident will happen to yur family if.. so that's got to be it.

[LibraLiz1973]

3. It's just SO unacceptable and disheartening......

Everytime a story comes out that clearly shows more of his lies I get more and more sick at heart about what is happening.
I dont CARE that it is a repub led congress. WHERE are the in power dems on this? WHY isn't this on the NEWS as a LEAD story?
WHY WHY WHY

ack. I'm making myself mental

[Lone_Star_Dem]

15. The media couldn't care less about covering real news

It's not a a high profit item.

The "Power Dems" don't get air time (see above).

Care that it's a republican led Congress, they're the ones enabling this Administration.

The solution is in the upcoming election. Donate, volunteer, caucus and most important...VOTE.

Peace

[LibraLiz1973]

18. I did all of the above in the 04 election and nothing happened.

The thing that has me really pissed is that it seemed like we fought so hard to get nothing.
There was a shit load of evidence against him in 2004 but that did not stop him and his repub hacks
from destroying another election. Even with all the work that all of us do for the 2006 elections
who is to say it will mean anything?

He's still President and we are still screwed.

I don't want to be gloom and doom- I WANT to see some fucking action from the dem leaders that we have supported.
What, exactly, are THEY Doing about this? There is a big ass list of impeachable, treasonous things that Bush and his cronies have done. What are our candidates doing with the list? I want action.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

37. There's the rub

You either die fighting or hand over your rights and admit defeat.

Which ever Dem it is that represents you do some research on them and their actions. The odds are they've done more than you've heard about in the media. If you're still not satisfied with them, call them, write them or even show up at their office if that's possible for you. If you're still not happy with them then support another Dem in the next primary election.

Or just gnash your teeth and fail your arms about in frustration. The choice is yours. ;)

[LibraLiz1973]

38. Of course the choice is to keep fighting- but that does not make it any

easier to swallow the lack of results.

You know how it is..... Some days you just want to kick some ass.

[BeHereNow]

2. That is the question we have been asking here for years...

Our heads explode on a daily basis pondering that question.
Sometimes, hourly.
Lately, I just try not to think about it.
It is more than apparent that we are living
in a country with out any laws or justice.
The White House is filled with criminals
and apparently no one is going to stop them
or make them leave.

BHN

[LibraLiz1973]

7. It frustrates the shit out of me

This is one of those days when I don't see our light at the end of the tunnel- it just gets darker.
The latest Iraq war developments are (IMHO) HUGE! And yet...nothing

He stole office in 2000. He probably stole it again in 2004. The entire administration has basically been
shown for the liars that they are. AND STILL THEY SIT IN POWER. What the hell?

I have to believe that there is SOMETHING that can be done

[BeHereNow]

26. I hope you at least find some comfort in the fact that you

are NOT alone.

I agree, I do not see a light at the end of the tunnel either-
As a matter of fact, I shudder to think where this country
will be in ten years.

There are no longer any checks and balances in
our government, and it is quite clear there will not be
any time soon.

BHN

[LibraLiz1973]

29. Yeah... I really dont want to be a downer but today is one of those days

when the frustration really gets to you.

What I see as huge news (yesterdays declassified info) seemed not to have even made a ripple on the pond.


I'll get up and start over again, I always do. Sometimes the frustration gets the better of me.

[BeHereNow]

33. Find a corner in your world where you can make a difference-

I know that sounds like generic counsel, but I
find it the only bright spot of my day and the only
time I can forget about the rest of the insanity.

I work in a high school and I am doing my best
to make sure the kids know what is going on.

Their general sentiment is, the government is
going to do what ever it wants, so why should we
care-

Not too encouraging, eh?
Still I give them legislation to look up
and discuss.

I tell them that if they don't know their
rights as citizens, how will they know if their
rights are being violated?

Some of them are starting to show interest,
but many of them are just going to end up as cannon fodder.
Hate to say it, but it's true and it breaks my heart.

BHN

[qwertyMike]

4. I think it was the illegal

Cuban Cigar

[Cleita]

5. You'd think. But in the neo-con mind it makes sense.

Since getting bjs aren't a treasonable offense according to the Constitution, then those offenses that are treason according to the Constitution aren't relevent because the Constitution is no longer relevent to them.

[CarlVK]

6. Not unless the Democrats get some spine and show otherwise

I have been cheerleading an impeachment proceeding against Bush for years, and I find it hard to believe my own people in Congress are so skittish on it. It's time to do the right thing, and support Conyers in what will very likely be an impeachment case put together after the Dems win control of the House (see how optimistic I am?)

[LibraLiz1973]

9. EXACTLY! How can they possibly be skittish about it?

Being afraid of him only gives him more power. He's breaking law after law---- someones got to grow a set and take this fucker down.
I'm fast coming to the point where I'm going to be unwilling to vote for anyone who doesn't do SOMETHING to stop this shit.

[Cleita]

10. Even if we don't take back Congress, there should have

been almost unilateral support for it before this, if the Republicans were true patriotic Americans. Who are these pukes in Congress? They aren't patriotic Americans IMHO. Impeach the two bastards NOW!

[LibraLiz1973]

12. I'd bet that once it was a big story

and all the evidence was coming out there would be some repubs in congress who would go against Bush- for the sake of their own careers.

[Cleita]

16. A patriotic American even if he is a Republican should want

to protect this country and its Constitution. This was what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution. If the Executive or Judicial branches tried to take too much power, it was Congresses duty to check it.

These Repukes have proved that they are not loyal to America but to the shadow government that has usurped the GOP. They are all guilty of treason IMHO and for trying to install an autocratic form of government that is in direct conflict with our Constitution.

[OwnedByFerrets]

28. I am very serious when I say that

I believe the administration has "something" on every politician in office. Look, very few of us are even NEAR perfect. And many politicians who have risen to the rank of congressman or senator must have huge skeletons in their closets. Don't think for a second that these illegal wiretaps have been for nothing. They have been listening in on every conversation and getting dirt on every politician.
Or, if that doesn't work, its real easy to bring up the anthrax threat. It was done ONCE with impunity, why not again. If I, as a politician, have a choice between the safety of my family or keeping my mouth shut, what do you think I do?
You can go ahead and pass me the tin-foil hat, but how else do you explain the crickets in "that" branch of government?

[MannyGoldstein]

31. Impeach? Dems Couldn't Even Censure Bush!

While most Democrats thought it was good fun to censure Slick for a BJ, they couldn't even begin to censure The Smirk for the (much smaller, no?) offense of flagrantly violating the Constitution.

Sorry, the Brave Sir Robin Democrats are not likely to impeach The Smirk unless forced at gunpoint.

Now if you have a nice free trade agreement... or a draconian bankruptcy law... something a fella' or gal can get a good "quid pro quo" kickback on... then they can sink there teeth into it. But sorry, no shekels to be made in the impeachment game. Sorry. Go away.

[elocs]

8. The answer is simple:

The House is currently composed of 231 Republicans, 201 Democrats and 1 Independent. To impeach Bush will require a Democratic majority in the House and to convict him in the Senate would need the help of a number of Republicans. Impeachment is not conviction. Like any ordinary criminal, indictment is not conviction.

[LibraLiz1973]

11. That is unacceptable.

I don't CARE if the numbers are not in our favor. The fact is, it still needs to be done.

I think your post is dead on as to the reasons nothing is being done... But fuck! If they want to change anything
sometimes you just have to throw down. At least that would be a leading news story - from which it would be alot easier
to put ALL of the (massive amounts of) evidence against him together in one spot for all to see.

[Cleita]

13. Treason is not a Democratic or Republican issue. It's

and American issue. It's these two men who were sworn to uphold the Constitution attempting to destroy it piece by piece that should be investigated and impeached if the investigation finds that they have violated their oaths.

True patriotic Republicans should be on board with this. If not then they are part of the shadow government usurping our Constitutional rights one by one and they should be impeached as well.

[LibraLiz1973]

14. Ding Ding Ding!!

Yes yes yes

[Nikki Stone 1]

21. With these folks, EVERYTHING is a partisan issue

even basic American principles...which they don't give a damn about anyway.

[Nikki Stone 1]

17. One might also ask why Congress was called in for an emergency session

over one brain dead woman while thousands were allowed to die in a major US city, the government sitting on its hands in the aftermath of a hurricane, even though its OWN levees were breached.

It's ideology over reality.

Or maybe it's nastier: THe government wants to control every aspect of your personal behavior but do nothing about large scale civic and national disasters.

Like lying the nation into a war.

[LibraLiz1973]

20. Ohhhh... it just makes it worse

Your exactly right

[Nikki Stone 1]

23. Never been more sorry to be right

Keep everyone's eyes on their neighbors and off the corporate-controlled government.

[tpsbmam]

19. One reply for me.....

No conscience in the D.C. Republican party these days. None. Fat wallets, but no conscience.

[LibraLiz1973]

22. But what of our candidates and representatives?

What are THEY doing about this?

[bluestateguy]

24. Get a Democratic Congress to repeal the articles

A simple up or down vote to formally repeal the two articles approved in 1998.

[dkofos]

25. To repugs it is

To free thinking American citizens, not so much.

[jean]

27. May Katrina's hurricane force winds give bush a bj out of office

[Neoma]

30. We could always get a brave citizen to give him a blow-job.

[OwnedByFerrets]

40. Your assuming he even

has a dick. :sarcasm:

[LibraLiz1973]

42. ROFLMAO.

[Golden Raisin]

32. We no longer have

Congresspeople & Senators like Sam Ervin (of Watergate fame) who put the Country, Democracy, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights above partisan politics. With only a tiny handful of exceptions, our Congress today is a disgrace --- just striving to stay in power, hypocritically spouting pieties for the cameras that their actions negate, greedily sending as much $$ pork home as they can get their grubby mitts on and in debt and cahoots with the constituents they really serve: the K Street lobbyists. I say a plague on both their houses (Republicans & Democrats). Both are disgraceful and bringing this country to its knees and the doorstep of Fascism. When the History of this era is written it is going to be a very, very dark & evil chapter. For my money the only one worth a damn, who actually speaks up and has a spine, is Feingold.

[LibraLiz1973]

36. Does Feingold want to censure or impeach? Because if he does

Then I want to carry his ass to the White House.

If he says it, I am throwing my weight behind him 200% for a Presidential Run. I'm totally serious- anyone who comes
out PUBLICLY against Bush has my support. My support, my money and I will volunteer too.

[LibraLiz1973]

34. There have been bad Presidents before... BUT

Bush really is the "Perfect Storm" of shit.

1. In all actuality he was never elected to the office and therefore should not hold it.

2. He led our country into a war using false information.

3. He has pissed off more of the world toward America than any other President...ever.

4. He lies like a rug

5. His administration is full of thieves, cheats, crooks and liars. (Scooter...)

6. 3 Words: The Patriot Act

7. Hurricane Katrina and the complete failure to respond

8. The Downing Street Memo... The inability to even pretend to be looking for Osama Bin Laden.......
His tax cuts....

9. Yesterdays declassified report by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence




Where are we going wrong here? He keeps handing it to us on a silver platter & somehow we can't get him out.

[tjwash]

35. 59 days and counting.

Then we take back the congress. Letters of impeachment should follow.

[LibraLiz1973]

39. Clinton got a blow job

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2093416&mesg_id=2093416


Just went and downloaded the song- its funny.... and true!

[spanone]

41. Evidently.

[Jack Rabbit]

43. Why, yes, of course.

Don't you know? It's in one of those hidden clauses of the Constitution that only Cheney and Gonzales can find.

Bush can find them, too. That's because he doesn't know how to read in the first place.

[and-justice-for-all]

44. Apparently, so who is going to take one for the team?

[Lefty48197]

45. He LIED about the blow job.

It's ok that he got the blowjob, it's just that he lied about it.

[LibraLiz1973]

46. I know, right?

I've always thought him even having to lie to us about it was bullshit.
Frankly it was, and is, none of our business.
It was a marital matter... not a constitutional one.

[TitanicWreck]

47. The impeachement of Clinton was am attempted coup by the righties

If it wasnt the blowjob, but the lying that got Clinton impeached- then why isnt the same standard (punishing lying) being applied to Bush?

Looking back, it seems as if the impeachment of Clinton was an attempt of the right to overthrow Clinton, through the guise of legality..

[Lefty48197]

49. I think you may be on to something....

.

[Cobalt-60]

48. If a Blow Job is the only impeachable offense.

It's pretty certain the Chimp won't be impeached!
Muhuhahahaaaaa