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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:14 PM
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Olbermann gives his opinion of Path to 9/11 on ESPN Radio; still employed!
I think we have to give ABC/Disney and their assorted minions some credit today. This afternoon, on Dan Patrick's show on ESPN Radio (which as you all know is part of ABC/Disney), Keith Olbermann, during his usual hour's time slot with Patrick on the show, spoke up against the "Path to 9/11" movie.

This is a very condensed version of what he said about it (sighing as he began). Mind you: there was no evidence that he had to fight anyone in order to even express this opinion--in fact, Patrick himself even promoted it before a commercial break ("Coming up..."). There was no attempt to censor or stifle his opinion, either. And there would have been every perfectly justifiable reason to do so; after all, the program is supposed to be about sports, not politics or ABC's programming choices. But Olbermann spoke his piece, and spoke it as freely as he did his opinions throughout the rest of the time he was on the air.

First, he said he understood that there was buzz in Variety that the movie might be yanked, in part because of Bush asking for the 9-10 pm ET slot on 9/11 for his speech. Then he explained the controversy, saying that in the movie, Clinton was portrayed "in the words of the guy who wrote it" as not having had the "will" to stop Osama bin Laden. He said that the movie is being presented as being based on the 9/11 Commission Report, but the Commission Report actually says nothing about Clinton to imply this. He said it has "a lot of invented scenes" and that he, personally, thinks it's too soon to be making all these 9/11 movies anyway--especially one that's on your TV that you might happen to land on while searching for something to watch.

He added that he also felt there was "a lot wrong" with Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 911, "but at least it was in theaters" (as opposed to being on TV). He made a comparison to the TV movie about the Reagans, which he called "pretty much crap," and how Republicans complained about it so much--"with some justification"--that it got booted to Showtime. He mentioned the people who have participated in "Path to 9/11," including Harvey Keitel, who have already spoken up about its flaws and said it shouldn't run--and that even some conservative commentators agree.

Dan Patrick asked if there was any portrayal of Monica Lewinsky in the movie, and Keith said no, but the movie portrays Clinton as being too distracted by the Lewinsky situation to deal with Al Qaeda, yet there was a time Clinton was actually accused of "wagging the dog" when he ordered military strikes--accused of doing it just to distract attention from his own scandal. Keith said "It's rewriting history" to assign a president who was not a sitting president with responsibility for a terrorist attack that happened on another president's watch--that it would be as bad as blaming Bush alone, and no one else, for 9/11.

In short, he said "the truth would be served" if "Path to 9/11" did not air. He added that for a 9/11 movie to come out while so many people are still suffering the aftereffects of that day, "it has to be meticulous and fair--and this isn't it."

All this he said on ESPN Radio...part of the ABC/Disney empire.

No one tried to shout him down. No one tried to cut him off. No opposing opinion supporting the movie was presented. And Dan Patrick didn't come back afterward and announce that Keith had been fired.

Unless Keith doesn't show up for his own program tonight, and is eventually found tied to a bag of cement at the bottom of the East River, I think it's safe to say that ABC/Disney allowed him to speak his piece to a whole lot of sports fans this afternoon--many of whom are conservatives and don't really want to hear anything but sports on their sports radio, much less the rantings of some "liberal." But they let him do it anyway.

For that, I thank them.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:18 PM
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1. The bottom line is $$$. If Olbermann is making them $$$, they
probably couldn't care less. Seems like all the yelling we're doing from here isn't having any effect on this movie being shown. The money's already been spent.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:22 PM
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2. But it was on a sports broadcast. What about NEWS or "news" shows?
Dont start cheering for ABC until they offer both points of view on their own NEWS shows.

Better yet, dont cheer them until they offer THE FACTS- I dont see why we even need two points of view- just the facts.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:33 PM
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5. Point taken, however,
Joe Sixpack is more likely to listen to Dan Patrick and ESPN SportSpews than actual "news", and that reaches a whole lot of Joes that would have no idea otherwise.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:40 PM
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9. But much less likely to enter into the "news" echo chamber.
As it is, Joe Six Pack only got to hear it said ONCE- as opposed to it being inserted into a "news" echo chamber where KO's comments might get repeated several times.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:23 PM
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3. Is the radio show 99% about sports? NT
NT
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kcr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:40 PM
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8. Yes, it is entirely about sports
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 06:40 PM by kcr
This is very unusual. Occasionally Patrick will joke with Obermann about the content of his show that night, and they always pimp his show on MSNBC, but they never devote more than a minute or two to non-sports related issues.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:23 PM
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4. Thanks for posting this
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:53 PM
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11. Thanks for adding the link, Patsy.
It's worth listening to the first hour just to get to the second when Olbermann is on.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:36 PM
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6. I wonder why Clinton was distracted by the Lewinsky hoopla...
That must have been the fault of the Democrats as well.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:39 PM
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7. I'd give credit to Dan Patrick, but not to ABC.
It was his show. The network's powers that be can't control every second that's broadcast.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:48 PM
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10. No kidding. That's very strange for ESPN
Of course Kieth helped make them what they are. That's where I first saw him. For them to let him come on and make a speech like that and not only not censor him but for Dan Patrick to even ask him questions is very cool! You're right, most of the listeners to ESPN radio are conservative sports nuts. I'll bet that there will be some fallout though even if it is a buncha pissed off jocks complaining!

Good On Ya Kieth!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:06 PM
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12. At least more people find out about the lies in time
Their strategy was to spring it on us - RW pundits had the advance copies but Clinton&ours didn't. The fact that the uproar is being made known is something.
Just read a WaPo chat with WaPo's Lisa Moraes - freeper TV critic who sez "you'd be surprised how many people who complain about the ABC show don't get the concept of "dramatization"
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:41 PM
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13. Thanks for taking the time to transcribe everything.
And for posting it. Keith is the best.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:29 PM
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14. What were the "wrong" parts of FF9/11? Was there "a lot" wrong?
I've heard this before and I never know what the speaker means.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:06 AM
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17. Obviously, the flaws of F9/11 were not the subject at hand
and so Keith neglected to elaborate on what he felt were its flaws. I'm sure he'd be happy to recount them to you if you emailed him to ask.

That having been said, though, I think one reason Keith is valuable as a speaker for progressive views is that he doesn't come off as a mindless Kool-Aid drinker (unless you're a mindless rightie Kool-Aid drinker who can't tell the difference). He appears to be a levelheaded person of discretion who does not knee-jerk judge anything and does not knee-jerk support something if he thinks it is flawed. Doesn't matter what end of the political spectrum it's on.

So, the fact that Keith, who thought F9/11 was flawed, and that The Reagans had a lot of "crap" in it, thinks the truth would be better served without The Path to 9/11 says a lot.
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:08 PM
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15. Kicking Ass and Taking Names!
calling out the liars by NAME! YES!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:21 PM
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16. Very wise young man that Keith is...
cudos Keith, he passed the truth about this to a whole new audience, one that wouldn't have otherwise heard it, the fox viewers...Good on you Keith.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 10:16 AM
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18. "Path to 9/11" aside, this commentary from Keith..
opens up a cool possibility...

So Keith, you find flaws in "Farenheit 9-11'??
Ask Mike Moore to come on your Countdown show,
get all your criticism out in the open,
and let Mike explain! NOw that I would love.

We all know this "Path to.." is all bogus.
We need some dialog with some fine minds,
not closed minds.
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