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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:47 AM
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Why are gas prices going down ??
Are the oil companies attemting to assist "their" Party in November elections? Or have they all of a sudden got more oil than they can handle? Wouldn't the oil companies hesitate to appear to be involved in partisan politics, for fear of an excess profits tax if the Democrats win the House? !! Maybe they don't won't any taxes on their excess profits so they bring their prices down before the election and if the Republicans hang on, they can raise their prices once again?? What do you think? Is that what they are discussing behind the walls?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:48 AM
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1. Bingo!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:48 AM
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2. The word came down from CheneyCo: temporarily lower prices now...
...or face reregulation after Dems take control in November.

That's my guess.
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larrysh Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:54 AM
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7. The truth is........
The summer driving season is over and demand is down.

The Chinese are actively trying to slow their economy to prevent rampant
inflation (much as Bernanke is slowing ours).

The "Katrina" factor (several powerful hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico) has not materialized, taking the wind out of the specualtors sails. It's estimated up to $10.00 a barrel of the price of oil was a direct result of the commodity exchange blood suckers betting on a disruptive hurricane season.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:03 AM
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15. And you believe the oil companies would voluntarily lower prices...
...because of simple supply and demand?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :spray: :rofl:
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:06 AM
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18. I agree with your assessment here
After Labor Day prices tend to drop. And I imagine the mild hurricane season thus far has disappointed ghoulish speculators. I didn't know about China, though. Do you have a link on that? Thanks.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:26 AM
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27. summer driving season myth
here are prices by month going back to 2000
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gaspump.html

summary (forget 2005 because of Katrina and 2001 because of Osama)
prices from August-September-October
2000 - 146.5-155.0-153.2
2002 - 139.6-140.0-144.5
2003 - 162.0-167.9-156.4
2004 - 187.8-187.0-200.0

A drop like this is hardly typical of this time of year, but oil prices are down too, not just gasoline.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:48 AM
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28. $1.28 per gallon in 2000? I had forgotten that
The chart makes a good case against the Bush administration. I am sending it to everyone on my mailing list.

Thanks.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:26 AM
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26. Prices started going up in March. That's "summer"? n/t
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 11:45 AM by no_hypocrisy
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:50 AM
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3. It's hard to say definitively I should think
We've had a light hurricane season thus far, which might have something to do with it - and of course they found a pretty big find apparently - Gulf of Mexico I think. Could it be political? I don't know- I think they'd like to see another few years of Republican Dominence, but can they really believe that this will prodcuce the desired effect? And would they really consider it woth the gamble? Hard to say.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:51 AM
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4. You've answered your own questions.
The oil companies are going to do whatever they can to keep the GOP in control - they have obscene profits to protect. They will lose a little money now, and gas prices will go right back up after the elections if the GOP is still in control.

This is all planned, it's all done with the sole intent of making people feel better about life in America. Americans have short memories.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:52 AM
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5. Boys, tell everyone to crank it down a notch
until the elections are over, okay?
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:52 AM
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6. Big oil. Who's your daddy?
Better keep dropping those prices so your boys can keep control of the house and senate. After that, you can raise prices to the roof again.
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larrysh Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:56 AM
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10. If this is an oil company conspiracy with the Repubs,
shouldn't we be demanding a Senate investigation into why prices have dropped?

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:54 AM
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8. crude prices are dropping
Even Venezuela Crude is down to $64...
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:56 AM
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9. An Iranian element?
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 10:57 AM by PATRICK
Iran is free to sell more oil. If others are doing so and lowering prices to enhance GeoGOP politics, then as a purely national interest maybe Iran is forced to sell more to gear up for a well advertised US aggression and embargo- which would drive down prices more- which would help Bushco in the short term.

Ditto Venezuela.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:59 AM
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11. It's campaign season. That's why
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 AM by bluestateguy
They are worried about being hauled in to testify before Democratic congressional hearings.

They'll be back up right around Thanksgiving.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:00 AM
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12. MSNBC actually raised that question this morning...
One guest suggested the prices are down due to poitical reasons and the anchor agreed it's a definate possibility.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:03 AM
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17. But not necessarily to help Republicans but to help themselves...
They don't want to be taxed on their excess profits. If the price is low enough, the Democratic House could not tax them. I think they are just covering all their bases. They know the Repubs will not tax them. They can charge whatever they want.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:02 AM
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13. Either that or the price fixing investigation of BP.
Maybe both.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:03 AM
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14. Especially with recent BP oil pipeline probs - it was supposed to go up...
Repugs actually believe this ploy will keep the GOP from losing control of the house...
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:03 AM
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16. The Grand Oil Party is afraid of losing power.
No pun intended. :D
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:07 AM
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19. I don't know but I'm not going to complain about it.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:19 AM
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24. not going to complain about it? -at least not until the elections are over
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:11 PM
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29. If that's when the price of gas goes back up - yes.
If it keeps dropping - no.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:10 AM
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20. well if we ever knew about Cheneys Energy meetings in 2001...
We might know the truth...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:15 AM
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21. I believe the polling organizations correlate gas prices to votes.
Many/most of the polling I see, where a list of national issues is provided for the respondent to rank as "most important," include "gasoline prices" alon with "Iraq," "the economy," "War on Terror," and other far more comprehensive issues that are DIRECTLY related to political leadership. Since the standard disclaimer is that gasoline prices are a function of the "free market" and not under the control of the federal government, I find the inclusion somewhat puzzling. Nonetheless, the pollsters have all the data they need to correlate "undecided" and middle-of-the-road (pun intended) voters with their propensity to regard gas prices as key to voting for national offices. I can only speculate that the GOP deems themselves vulnerable on the edges of their 'base' based on gas pricing. I think it goes without saying that the self-indulgent road warriors driving big honking gas guzzlers are largely inclined to vote for the fascists. Thus, we see gas prices rising around the time of a general election when incumbents are Democrats and falling when incumbents are GOP.

I've personally never viewed gasoline pricing in itself as determinative of my vote. But I'm not part of that 'base,' either.

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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:17 AM
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22. The oil companies are changing over to heating oil
which will go through the roof.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:18 AM
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23. Repuke voteor ploy...
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:23 AM
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25. there seems to be
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 11:23 AM by plcdude
a positive correlation to Bush's polling numbers and the price of gasoline.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:17 PM
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30. Drops like what are happening
now are another sign of a real economic slowdown in my opinion. Speculators and such on wall street don't act in a monolithic way to effect gas prices for political cuases, they are trying to make money speculating on futures contracts.
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