Is it time to burn all our Disney products?

[dogday]

Just like they did the Dixie Chicks... Is it time to have a public display of Disney crap being set on flames? :shrug:

[Chimichurri]

1. ridiculous. You're not serious with that question are you?

[dogday]

3. Very serious

and what is so ridiculous about it... We are boycotting Disney...

[Junkdrawer]

4. Well, burning Bambi may not send the message we want....n/t

[dogday]

6. So what if they are cute little creatures

they are the product of a Corporation that is lying to the people and trying to change history....

[Junkdrawer]

11. We're going to have to be more creative....

Burning "cute" will backfire big-time.

Perhaps pinning "Walt would weep" notes in a mass mail-back campaign...

[dogday]

12. Whatever gets the attention

there are all kinds of Disney products....

[CBGLuthier]

5. What you mean WE?

Some of those who participate here may be doing so but to say that WE are ALL doing it is wrong.

Also, the day I support anything that is close to book burning is the day I go buy a black uniform and start goose stepping. Which will be never.

[dogday]

9. Wow, I mean we the ones who support it

and there are many here.... Burning books and burning Disney are not the same....

[CBGLuthier]

13. The hell it isn't

Diney does publish you know.

What DISNEY are you planning on burning.

CDs?

Movies?

Any way you look at it this is the kind of stupid shit that is done by fascists.

Not progressives.

Shameful idea. Period!!

[dogday]

14. Well you are entitled to your

opinion... And I asked the question, I got your response... Good enough... Thanks for saying it...

[Warpy]

8. If we already have those things, we've already given them

a profit on selling them. Burning them is stupid and will only add to air pollution.

A better idea is storing them carefully and in good condition for an appearance with our great grandchildren on a future Antiques Roadshow.

We don't need to burn them. It would be nice to stop displaying them.

[dogday]

10. If that is good for you

Than that is kewl too....

[Dr.Phool]

2. Yes.

And I'm pressing the Florida Democratic Party to stop holding their conventions at Disney resorts in the future.

[Neshanic]

7. Yes.

[cobalt1999]

15. No.

I've spent too much time making fun of fundies for their boycotts of Disney and burning things like fascists to EVER take up the same behavior patterns.

-edited for spelling

[dogday]

16. So you don't boycott as well? nt

[cobalt1999]

28. I didn't say all boycotts.

Boycotts should be used where they are effective, otherwise you end up looking like...well, the Southern Baptists.

1) A boycott is not going to impact Disney's finances before this program airs. After it airs, then what? Continue? For what? When does it end? Boycotts are great for long term change and only if a significant impact can be generated. Again, see the Southern Baptists...while arguing for boycotting Disney on Sunday, they were all slinking off to the place during the summer.

2) Burning things. I can't see how that accomplishes anything at all. Disney already has the money. After all this anger settles down, those with children will probably end up buying some replacements. Therefore, you've increased future Disney sales. Same thing when all those Churches were burning Beatles records, the kids went out and bought replacements.

[dogday]

30. That is why I posed my post in the form of a question...

The boycott of ABC is important and Disney as well.....

[cobalt1999]

35. Boycott if you feel you must.

It's as doomed as the right wing boycotts of Disney.

One question though. After this program airs, do you continue your boycott forever? What's the aim of this boycott?

[dogday]

37. Yes I do

To not support Disney or anything that would put money in their pockets as they are promoting a film as truth and trying to re-write history and it is not... They are also going to be spreading this around in schools... It sucks...

[cobalt1999]

57. It does suck.

I just don't think burning or boycotts are methods that will work in this case.

IMHO, raising awareness of what they are doing through the media and using Democratic leaders to denounce this, MAY put enough pressure on ABC/Disney to stop it. A letter writing, calling your senator/congressman, and urging others are tactics to use where time is short.

[beachmom]

17. Please delete this hideous thread now!

Disgusting. I'm no Nazi who burns written, filmed, and recorded materials. You need to get your head examined.

[dogday]

19. I asked if it was time

I was thinking more stuff animals... It is to make a point... I did not know Nazis were the only ones that do this.... You need to read the question? I asked it, I didn't say to do it...

[alpizzy]

18. Well, I didn't plan on burning anything but....

I did email them that I'm removing anything from my TiVo line up
that is ABC or Disney related. I also told them I would be making a
list of their advertisers in order to avoid buying from them. In my
mind alienating Disney/ABC from their advertisers is the way to go.

[The2ndWheel]

20. What is burning products going to do?

The 5 year old girl in a 3rd world country already made it. Disney already sold it.

Instead of countering the movie, and maybe developing some additional critical thinking skills along the way, we want it pulled off the air. Now we want to burn Disney products.

[dogday]

22. Thanks for your response

I am asking a question, nothing more than that.....

[Evergreen Emerald]

21. I was thinking of that issue last night

And posted this on another thread: if they had decided to air the Moore documentary (ya know the factual one), the neo-cons would have been burning movies and stringing up stuffed lions, hanging the sign "traitor" across a mermaid. The Disney Channel would be boycotted, and many local stations would refuse to run any disney movies--the ice-shows would have to be canceled for lack of ticket-sales.

[dogday]

23. That is why I asked the question

I thought they always get results and attention when they do it... Would it be something we could do?

[Sonnabend]

26. Count me OUT.

I have no intention of destroying valuable property that I paid for on a whim over this matter...nor do I have any intention of destroying my wife's Disney products.

You do as you wish...with due respect, it is an ultimately futile and useless gesture.

[RB TexLa]

24. What is burning something you have already paid for going to do?

[dogday]

25. Send a statement to Disney maybe?

[Sonnabend]

27. Telling Disney that you burned your books and DVD's

will send them a message all right.

But not the one you had in mind.

[dogday]

29. Are you boycotting Disney? nt

[Sonnabend]

31. Me? No.

In case it had escaped your notice, Disney holds control of a large group of companies and organisations.

Disney has a hand in dozens of film companies and distribution outlets, including Touchstone Pictures. I do not intend to go through the video shop checking each and every one to see if its a Disney owned company. When I go shopping for my wife's birthday present, I will get her what I think she will like and politics be damned.

When I go and get a present for my nephew..I will get him what he has asked me for.."Bambi".I dont intend to tell a five year old I didn't get him what he asked me for over politics.When I go to a game store to buy a new game, I do not intend to check each one to see if it has ties to Disney..I will get what I want to get, when I want to get it.

Reality.

Live with it.

[dogday]

32. No you live with it....

Because that is what you are doing.....

On edit: I plan on boycotting anything that has to do with a corp that promotes lies and tries to change history by distributing this piece of filth in the schools...

[Sonnabend]

33. I do as I please

..and I answer to no one.

Excuse me...just who do you think you are, telling me what to buy and what not to?

[dogday]

36. I didn't tell you shit

I asked you... Better buy some glasses from one of your Disney companies and re-read the post....

[Sonnabend]

38. Thanks, but Disney doesnt make glasses

..mine are from an optometrists..and he's very good.

[dogday]

40. Couldn't tell.... nt

[Sonnabend]

41. To directly answer your question

"Is it time to have a public display of Disney crap being set on flames?"

The short and sharp answer is HELL NO.

Will that suffice?

[dogday]

42. You have stated over and over, your opinion on this matter

one would almost think you have a mandate.... :shrug: just sayin!!!

[Sonnabend]

43. No mandate: the idea itself is ludicrous

n/t

[dogday]

44. And your posts on this are as well...

[Sonnabend]

45. so my statements that I alone decide what to

buy and what not to..and that I alone should be the judge...is ludicrous?

[dogday]

46. No just you alone

your statements are your opinion and you are entitled.. This relentless posting of the same thing is ludicrous though....

[Sonnabend]

47. So is the very idea of burning DVDs or books.

n/t

[dogday]

49. I know I can ask a question

and again you state the same thing over and over....

[Evergreen Emerald]

34. The power they wield

That is a scary thought: they are so entrenched in our society. I wonder if they believe they have so much power that they can spew any propaganda without recourse. They are sending Scholastic to our schools with propaganda to brainwash our children. And we, after all are the little people that are dependant on them for our nephew's happiness.

[dogday]

39. Yes they are and it is scary

the way they are trying to re-write history....

[elehhhhna]

58. Better rethink Bambi for a 5 y/o. Seriously.

It's a beautiful film -- anything they did when Walt was alive is A#1--but the death of Bambi's family is dammned hard for a preschooler to absorb. My youngest had nightmares about that film.



Just saying.

[elehhhhna]

48. Honey, I banned Ditsney from this house after watching a few days

worth of the Disney Channel for Kids, back when my girls were small & we got cable.

Garbage wrapped in crap.

[dogday]

50. Good For You!!!

and thanks for not saying I am some kind of creep for asking a question... :hi:

[Sonnabend]

51. Question:Is it time to burn all our Disney products? Answer:NO.

Im done here.

[dogday]

52. Thank goodness, thought he would never leave...... nt

[elehhhhna]

55. LOL. No worries. I LIKE irony and sarcasm.

[Nikki Stone 1]

70. I think this is a legitimate question of personal conscience

I don't go to Wal Mart, I don't order Domino's Pizza. I'll just put Disney on the list.

[Texasgal]

53. Dogday...

Two wrongs don't make it right.

Many people were angry when the rightwingers burned the Dixie Chicks CD's.... Book burnings? That's fundie behavior.

We don't need to stoop to that level.



Just a thought.

[dogday]

54. Texasgal, thanks for your opinion

that is why I asked the question and I understand that perfectly.... Getting some good responses about this and some not so good, ya know?

[Texasgal]

56. I understand..

DU can be a shitty place sometimes.

People didn't need to pounce on you, just answering the question would have been okay.

Sorry 'bout that. :hugs:

[Greylyn58]

59. I understand your anger

but I can't condone burning anything. That is what "They" do, the people who want to instill fear, hatred and ignorance. "They" use these tactics because they have nothing else to offer.

We can do better than that and we must do better. Because if all we offer is the same stupidity, how can we show we have a better plan, a better way for this nation. Stooping to their level will gain us nothing but burned objects and show we are no better than they are.

We must find a better way. We found it with the Sinclair people when they tried to air their disgusting program about Kerry. We can find it here as well.

[dogday]

61. Thank you for your response in a kind

and gentle fashion... I was just asking, actually thinking out loud... I think the consensus is that burning anything in protest is unworthy of Democrats and Progressives and I think that is fine...

I was asking a question if it would be proper, I certainly now know it would not....


Thanks again :hi:

[Imagevision]

60. YES! but it should be done downtown in a major US. city!!

[rinsd]

62. There are few things more pathetic in life..

...than somone excusing disgusting behavior with either "they do it too" or "they did it first".

[dogday]

63. I am just asking a question

I appreciate all the responses I am getting... I am not trying to persuade anyone to do it... Just asking if it should be done? I am sensing your answer is no....

[rinsd]

66. Yes, my answer would be no.

And my post wasn't directed at you persay as you were putting forth the subject for debate more the general reasoning. Sorry if it came off that way.

[dogday]

67. Thats ok, I have taken alot of heat

for just asking the question. I see the consensus is a big NO and I understand that... Thanks for the post......

[onenote]

64. its never time

I thought it was absurd when fundies crushed Beatles' records to protest John Lennon's comments about Jesus. I thought it was stupid when RWers burned and destroyed Dixie Chicks CDs because of their comments about chimpy and the war. When copies of Harry Potter books, of Rushdie's Satanic Verses, of Flynn's "Cop Killer" book, were burned I viewed those doing the burning as idiots.

Let me ask you this: is it time to demand that your public library remove all copies of books, CDs, and DVDs published by Disney? Are you prepared to picket movie theaters that show Touchstone or Miramax films? Will you demand that Best Buy and AMazon and all other retailers stop selling copies of Fantasia?

Where does it end...

[dogday]

65. I will boycott Disney as much as I can....

Where do the lies end I ask you? Are we prepared to let history be changed by lies? then to be spoon-fed to our kids....

I will do the best I can not to put any money in Disney's pockets...


I asked a question about the burning, I do not condone or encourage, just asked....

[onenote]

68. So, do you agree with those who do not support burning Disney products?

I've made my position clear, as have others (on both sides of the question you posed). I just am trying to parse out how you would answer your own question.

[dogday]

69. After listening to everyone here, I don't think

it is a good idea... There have been several points raised that I agree with, thus the question...

On the boycotting, I will continue to try to avoid giving Disney, one dime of my hard earned money..

[Ron Green]

71. I've got no Disney products to burn.

Since Walt died and the new corporate breed have taken over, I've avoided giving them a dime.

They and their copyright lawyers can go to hell.