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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:21 PM
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I'm becoming disturbed by all the 9/11 hype.
I just saw this on CNN website, and this just put things over the top for me:

"CNN Pipeline presents CNN’s original TV coverage of 9/11/2001 free, in real time. Starting @ 8:30AM. Watch Monday"

There is something disturbing about this. Why would someone want to watch the original coverage of this? How do the families feel about this? All this replaying of 9/11 must be causing them a lot of unnecessary pain and anxiety. It's almost as if the media is CELEBRATING 9/11, and it's sick. Worse, it does exactly what the terrorists want: it gives them airtime and makes their actions seem bigger and more important. Oh boy, it's the 5th anniversary of 9/11! What's with the 9/11 party? A bunch of extremist thugs got lucky and managed to hijack 3 planes when we had a president who wasn't paying attention. They managed to kill 3,000 people. How many people have died of starvation this year in the third-world, and cancer and heart disease in the first-world? Almost as many have died in Iraq.

Why are we elevating these criminals like this and giving them so much airtime? Why are we celebrating this? It's sick.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:23 PM
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1. I heard about this awful plan a week ago
I have no desire to relive that morning, in real time, thanks to CNN. None. Why would I want to do that?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:24 PM
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2. Aren't you looking forward to reliving 9/11?
I'm not.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:27 PM
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3. The media whores have been told to catapult the propaganda
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 11:29 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
More of the neocons' shameful exploitation of the 9/11 attacks.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:28 PM
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4. I have all the television coverage from that day on videotape
I started recording almost as soon as the second plane hit, so I won't be watching.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:30 PM
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5. I don't have it on videotape, and I won't be watching.
What is there to learn from watching it again?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:00 AM
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10. You wouldn't necessarily know that unless you did it.
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 12:02 AM by Hissyspit
I understand your concerns with the celebratory aspects, but there is scholarly consideration, as well. One can look at it and take an even more critical approach to the media's function on that day; details of the particular that was recorded that day can be revived in your mind and related to current developments in 9/11 study. I am not defending the network's mass repeat of this information and their promotional push - assuredly that deserves a critical eye. I'm answering your specific question, from the point of view of an academic who studies and teaches art and media, about why someone MIGHT want to look at it again.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:52 AM
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16. On the first anniversary, I taped a lot of the coverage...
I have a lot of the Ground Zero memorial service on tape as well as a couple of the media reports on what happened behind the scenes. I also taped the documentary by the French brothers. Like Hissyspit, I did this merely for the sake of historical documentation--not to watch and relive it all. I have a difficult time watching ANYTHING about 9/11.

I saw commercials/trailers for the film with Nicholas Cage and I was reduced to tears and hysterics by one of the scenes they chose to air in great detail. I was viewing Rescue Me at the time and had no idea at the time, that it wasn't the show. :scared: (I tend to have tv on in the background while I'm on-line and look up from time to time).

All of my historical videotaping is now in a box with newspapers that I save from momentous occasions (the first African American Oscar winners, 9/11 newspapers, Deep Throat identifying himself, the year 2000, etc.) If I ever have children they will have these items as representation of those events, as opposed to some media fairy tale-- retelling of events, which tends to happen over the years. (Case in point, Reagan's deification upon his death :puke:)

I never watch these tapes. I will have to probably view them again, when I transfer everything to dvd. I'm not really looking forward to that, though--as again, anything about 9/11 makes me feel very raw.

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:17 AM
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17. A lot...
Time seems to distort the facts and the time frame of events seem to blur together. Getting a fresh look gives people a less emotional and more analytical look at that day. By rerunning that day, we can see how insanely long it took for the Military to respond, hear new accounts that were missed and we can study the tapes to see if something was missed. I, for one, am thankful that CNN is rerunning that day.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:31 PM
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6. Fortunately you have to pay for CNN pipeline viewings..
So they can't possibly have THAT manner viewers desperate to watch it for 24 straight hours?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:46 PM
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7. It bothers me too
It's one thing to mark the 5 years, but the way this is being done is ghoulish, like public hangings in the old west or something. I suppose we'll see how low this country has sunk by the numbers of people who watch it. I know I'm not going to.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:57 AM
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19. Agree, its an overt attempt to influence the election
Very ghoulish and very desperate on the GOP and news media's part to keep the party in power when their popularity is waning.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:57 PM
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8. It keeps it alive in the minds of America
Which is just what the Republicans want.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:59 PM
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9. I agree nm
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:06 AM
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11. On the other hand, we just finished watching PBS
The American Experience http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/newyork/ - I don't know whether this was new or repeat, and it was excellent.

Mostly it had interviews with engineers, city workers, reporters and artists and the always excellent Mario Cuomo (we came late).

It did have some file videos of the actual attacks and the collapse and, yes, I was thinking how difficult it must be for the families. It also showed - and I remember the networks were hiding these scenes - of people jumping down. I remember Diane Sawyer and Charlie Gibson talking about it, and seeing a still photo in one of the newspapers or magazine, but not "live." On occasions I did wonder what I would do. Sit on the top floors waiting to be burnt, or just jump.

And, while watching this, I had to wonder, again, about the conspiracy theorists - many on DU - who still claim that the "government" was behind the collapse of the buildings. What a terrible, cruel and baseless thing to say. There were many engineering reports following that day that showed how the extreme heat of the burning jet fuel could destroy the core.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:07 AM
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12. The plans for another are in the works. Tonight I heard on CNN about
another tape they recieved which they probably paid for or have had in storage since who knows when. They may make things rough soon. They're fucking crazy.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:07 AM
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13. Because 36% of Americans don't believe thier story anymore...
In a recent poll, 36% of Americans Believe 9/11 Was an Inside Job. Now, combine that number with those who believe Saddam Hussein was connected to 9/11. The question was asked, "Do you agree or disagree that there was a connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 terror attacks?" 46% of the people agreed with this statement. Understand this... anyone who still thinks Saddam had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11 is completely retarded. Even Bush knows that Saddam had nothing to do with the attacks...


Bush: ... The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East.

Q What did Iraq have to do with that?

THE PRESIDENT: What did Iraq have to do with what?

Q The attack on the World Trade Center?

THE PRESIDENT: Nothing, (long pause...DOH!) except for it's part of -- and nobody has ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/mikelewis/27


So now we have 46% of the country that is dumber than Bush (which is very frightening). Obviously, none of these people believe any "conspiracy theories" other than those originally sold by Bush. What are the odds that any of them believe Saddam was connected to 9/11 and also believe the 9/11 was an inside job? My guess, none. So, we have 46% of the people who have no idea what's going on. We have 36% of the people who think it was an inside job. That leaves only 18% of the "mainstream" population (defined as those who are paying attention to socially acceptable versions of current events) that know Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and who still actually buy that fantasy they sold us. Right now, the nutjobs outnumber the mainstream by a ratio of 2 to 1. This is why they're holding the 9/11 extravaganza. They're not after Clinton (well, they are but that's just a bonus), they're out to remind people of their version of events. All they have on thier side of "reality" is 18% of the population and they need to reinforce their message before that number dwindles even farther.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:15 AM
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14. I believe the plan will backfire...
Watching the tapes might finally make enough Americans mad enough to get off their dead a$$es and DEMAND the end of the Republican seige of this country!

It has taken a while for the truth to sink into our fellow Americans. Watching the tapes and believing it is an inside job ... well, I bet the silent majority will finally speak out.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:35 AM
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15. Not yet...
There's not enough hungry white people yet. In the spring of '07 when the recession finally hits and hits hard, you'll start to see some real movement. Until then, I plan on TIVO'ing the 9/11 Extravaganza and trying to pick out any new information that may have been overlooked in the last 5 years. I'm very excited about CNN's rerun of the entire day, though I'm not all that thrilled about dissecting it over the next month.

Don't get lost in this political show, all they're doing is trying to fix the hype around the delusion. In stead of arguing about how the towers collapsed, they're getting people to argue over which version of fantasy we prefer. Slow and steady wins this race and we have two more years to expose this lie. While Bush is in office, there is hope the country will wake up the the crimes of the Corporations that control this country. Once he's out, we start from scratch. As the economic crisis approaches and finally settles in, people will start to listen to the Truth. When that movement kicks into gear, they'll be a perfect storm that wipes out that whole lot of demon-spawn from our midst.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:25 AM
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18. CNN is catapulting propaganda for BushCo -- CNN pushes its drug: terror.
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 07:28 AM by tiptoe
CNN is a fear-monger for war-mongers and election fraudsters/democracy subversives.

Sterile "journalism"
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:30 AM
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20. this is so horrible for those families who lost family members
to open old wounds, they are being used by bush and the propaganda machine. The Bush administration will never stop politicizing this horrific event. Like Bush said he has to keep repeating and repeating the information to have it sink in to catapult the propaganda. FU Bush.
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