I don't know why everyone wants this movie pulled

[johnnie]

Yeah, it might be an attack on Clinton, but it could be used by the Dems to get the real truth out. They should be getting ready for an all-out blitz after the movie is shown to not only attack the filmmakers for making a film of total bullshit, but they should also start in on the real story to straighten the record out.

I'm sure a lot of the party will sit there and take it like usual, but maybe some of the party will get together and use the showing of the film as a springboard to defend Clinton and let people know what really happened.

Just a thought, don't tear into me too much. I am recovering from surgery and in pain..lol.

[Midlodemocrat]

1. How are you feeling, there sir?

Meds helping at all?

:hug:

[johnnie]

5. They help, but I keep getting sharp pains

And I asked if I run out of meds if I can get some more and was told "Well you can call, but you should be fine". I am hoping they hook me up though..lol.
Thanks for askin' :hi:

[helderheid]

2. it's possible the dems could use it to get the truth out but you could

make the same argument about all the crap coming from the "liberal media". Where and when are the Dems getting the truth out when it comes to our media?

Edited to add I hope you have some good pain meds and get well soon!

[patricia92243]

3. Oh! Get real!

[johnnie]

7. K

[Why Syzygy]

4. I think it will backfire

and serve to further inflame those who know they have been lied to too much already.
The doo-dorfs who still support Bush will just use it to help themselves sleep at night.

[SmokingJacket]

6. In an ideal world, you would be SO right.

However, the Dems can't get the truth out when -- as it is becoming more and more apparent -- the media purse strings are held by GOP donors.

What network would host the "all-out blitz" you speak of? I can't think of one.

(Hope your recovery goes well!)

[plcdude]

12. exactly

you have to embarassment the so-called liberal media at the time of the issue in order to get coverage.

[johnnie]

13. Thanks

I guess an all-out blitz would just be to mention it whenever they can. On different shows, maybe an email campaign, use it in their different campaigns for November. Things like that.

[mmonk]

8. It's hard to get people to accept the truth you may tell

when the American broadcast news media won't back you up or pushes a contradiction.

[DireStrike]

9. Sorry, you're wrong. Think about framing.

Whatever we say after the movie is just so much talk. The movie will stick with people.

[EFerrari]

11. Images are more powerful for most people than spoken world. n/t

[johnnie]

15. But all the talk of pulling the movie or boycotts don't help

It doesn't look good to me let alone the bush supporters who are hearing about it.

[DireStrike]

19. I dunno, we'll see if it helps

If they air an edited, watered down version, then our talking about it helped. If they pull it entirely, it helped.

[johnnie]

22. True

But then you will have "So what did the Democrats not want you to know?" And knowing rove and his people, they will run with it. All I am saying is that I wish our party would get together and figure out how to use things like this to promote the party rather than hoping it will all go away.

[Individualist]

10. "might be" an attack...??

And just who do you suppose would televise or report an all-out blitz by the Dems?

[FlaGranny]

14. That is a bit naive, friend.

A lot of people watch TV miniseries - they don't watch much real news. Many more will see it than will hear the rebuttals.

[johnnie]

18. It was just a suggestion

In my opinion, the repukes are laughing at us for freaking out over this movie. They will use that a lot more than when the movie actually shows. Look at what happened with Moore's Fahrenheit 9-11, everyone here was laughing their asses off because people were fighting the released. Everyone was talking about how afraid the repubs were because the truth is finally getting out there.

It's not naivety, it's called learning from the past. That's typical for a lot of our party though, they don't see where to take an opportunity and run with it. Just bitch about it privately and maybe it will go away. :eyes:

[guruoo]

26. Do you have a better idea?

Seriously! :hi:

[insane_cratic_gal]

16. don't you find it odd it's right before the 2006 elections?

Maybe we don't want ABC spreading Propaganda which is about the only thing comes out of 9/11.. a lot of bullshit and pointing fingers.


I'd really just like to the see the movie about the path AFTER 9/11 and every fuck up that followed and every right this administration has stripped. NOW that's a movie I'd watch! At least it would be a fair assessment of the truth and the consequences of what happens when you let the village idiot run a country.

[Poiuyt]

17. Not everyone in America watches Countdown

I'm sure there are a lot of people in middle America who will just watch regular network shows, not the news shows that political junkies watch. They will watch the movie and see that Clinton was responsible for 9/11 and that Bush was a hero

[johnnie]

20. I just think we need some imagination

Once again, why can't the dems take an opportunity and run with it?

[EstimatedProphet]

21. Dude, you had surgery?!?

I'm around so little I never find out what's going on anymore...

I think what you're saying is how it will play out anyway. I'm mad about this because we shouldn't have to debunk this shit. We shouldn't have to spend our time correcting the record, and the only reason we are is because a bunch of fucking liars are making us do it.

[johnnie]

23. Yeah, just a double umbilical hernia thingie, not really bad.

The thing is, our party isn't debunking anything. Sure, we at DU talk a lot about it, but most of the country isn't reading DU. If this movie is aired, it will bring it right out to the forefront of the American public's view and then that gives the dems a chance to address it in public.

[EstimatedProphet]

24. OK, I'll grant you that point

But maybe look at it this way: that's what we're doing right now. We're addressing the lies they put into the movie before it airs and has a chance to lie to anyone. Olbermann did a good job on it last night BTW.

[johnnie]

25. This thread is what I was trying to say

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2072866


That was my point, but I guess I presented it wrong or I have more people here that wants to disagree with me..lol.