When they torture our G.I.'s for info, will w be cool with that?

[Philosoraptor]

After yesterday's angry and defiant pro torture speech meant for the maniacal base that will vote for bush regardless, the neo cons don't seem to give a fuck about our soldiers by declaring that we will continue to torture our prisoners of war.

It will happen, not if but when, and when it does, oh brother will it piss Americans off, but so what, torture is cool now, everybody does it, we do too, but we want to do it openly and free from prosecution.

the torture chickens WILL come home to roost.

[Horse with no Name]

1. If they haven't already

The media doesn't tell us anything that Bush doesn't want us to know.
And yes, those chickens WILL come home to roost. As a military family member, it pisses me off to no end.

[liberal N proud]

2. That will be a good question to ask any one who still supports bu$h

How will they feel if American soldiers are tortured?

[thepurpose]

3. The people who love Bush over our country will gladly give our soliders

up.

[w8liftinglady]

6. ...because their kids will never be over there...

[madokie]

15. they already have looks to me like.

bushco* doesn't want any vet's left from this massacre that's why the number of turn arounds. I don't remember anyone being held over in Vietnam, 13 months and you were out of there if you survived. Several of us extended our duty but we weren't forced to do so

[focusfan]

4. He wouldn`t care,not happening to him

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[Lerkfish]

7. by ignoring the geneva conventions, we give tacit permission for our

captors to torture our own soldiers.

the whole point of the GC was to have an agreed upon basic standard of prisoner treatment, in order to give a modicum of protection to anyone from anywhere from torture.

once we, of all countries, blatantly ignore that agreement, then we became a specific target of that mistreatment.

another wonderful delusional aspect of this administration. They think torturing would quell terrorism, but it only breeds it more virulently as revenge against our own actions.

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[Lerkfish]

9. no, that's not the point.

what you're saying is accurate, but beside the point.
when WE do it, then we give tacit permission to EVERYONE to torture us, not just the previous groups that ignored the GC.
not sure you get my meaning: Now, if France or Germany (god forbid), countries who adhere to the GC, captured us, since we do NOT adhere to the GC, they are not bound to in our specific case.

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[Lerkfish]

11. THE POINT IS: obviously, we are NOT bound...

because we ignore the GC.
so, if we are not bound, why is anyone else bound?

sheesh, are you intentionally missing my point?

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[Lerkfish]

16. WTF??? you're saying we have NOT ignored the Geneva Convention?

If you truly believe that, I'm done discussing it with you....buhbye

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[Lerkfish]

23. no, the truth is EXACTLY OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.. we DO

ignore the CG as a matter of policy. Are you completely UNAWARE of Gonzale's memo telling the administration its okeydoke to circumvent the torture stipulations of the CG as long as organ failure does not occur?

have you been living in a hole for the last several years?

gees, google is your friend.

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[Lerkfish]

29. non-trick answer: Australia and UK citizens were tortured at Gitmo

or do you not consider those countries protected by the GC?

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[Lerkfish]

31. you're alleging there was no torture at Gitmo?

you're sadly and perhaps intentionally mistaken.

perhaps you made a wrong turn on the internet today.

[madokie]

17. did you not see or hear bush* yesterday admitting to torture

:shrug:

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[Lerkfish]

24. defending bush policies will not endear you to people here.

especially when torture is involved.

just fyi.

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[Coexist]

12. Wes Clark:

http://www.texasforclark.com/WPvideo/Fox_060218_wm.htm

[Chimichurri]

14. He doesn't care about our soldiers. He only cares about big business

and the bottom line.

[madokie]

18. and at this point his own ass

[The2ndWheel]

19. No, and that's how a hierarchical social structure works

Those at the top are good, those at the bottom are bad. Those at the top know what can and can't be done.

[Greeby]

20. But of course

The sadist who started by blowing up frogs, went up to branding pledges and graduated to mocking a woman he executed, is gonna have no trouble with US soldiers being tortured

[Cleita]

25. Our soldiers have been tortured in past wars.

This is why those of us who are old enough to remember are doubly enraged about this. The purpose of the Geneva conventions was so that our soldiers would have a chance to be safe from torture if taken as POWs. None of our soldiers is safe from this now and what has been done to some of our soldiers recently bears witness to this.

[JVS]

26. What's this WILL stuff?

have there not already been brutal beheadings and torture?