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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:04 AM
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Memo: GHOULIANI KNOWINGLY PUT NEW YORKERS IN HARM'S WAY (9/11)
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 01:05 AM by Bluebear
"America's mayor" and one of the GOP's "Best hopes" for campaign 2008 directed toxic areas be opened even though he knew it was unsafe:



(CBS) NEW YORK Stunning proof has been uncovered that the government knowingly put New Yorkers in harm's way after 9/11. CBS 2 News has obtained documents revealing that Lower Manhattan was reopened a few weeks following the attack even though the air was not safe.

The two devastating memos, written by the U.S. and local governments, show they knew. They knew the toxic soup created at Ground Zero was a deadly health hazard. Yet they sent workers into the pit and people back into their homes.

One of the memos, from the New York City health department, dated Oct. 6, 2001, noted: "The mayor's office is under pressure from building owners ... in the Red Zone to open more of the city." The memo said the Department of Environmental Protection was "uncomfortable" with opening the areas but, "The mayor's office was directing the Office of Emergency Management to open the target areas next week.

"Not only did they know it was unsafe, they didn't heed the words of more experienced people that worked for the city and E.P.A.," said Joel Kupferman, with the group Environmental Justice Project....

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_249164937.html

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:15 AM
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1. And if ABC were doing a docudrama
with this information they would blame it on Mayor Dinkins somehow.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:09 AM
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8. Hooligani


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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:53 PM
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21. Not Dinkens, they would claim Clinton forced Guiliani to do it!
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:17 AM
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2. Let the lawsuits begin!
Culture of corruption. Culture of corruption. Culture of corruption.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:18 AM
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3. The EPA was also responsible
Thanks for Bush and faux moderate Republican Christie Todd Whitman.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:33 AM
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4. Say "Goodbye" to any hopes you had of becoming President, Rudy.n/t
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:08 AM
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7. He moved his mistress into the mayor's mansion before he was
divorced. He doesn't have a chance in Peoria.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:07 AM
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14. Actually, his wife refused to leave Gracie Mansion
and Ruby was forced to move out. He then moved into an apartment with two gay roommates. Like he couldn't afford his own place?

The best part was when he marched in the St. Patrick's Day Parade with his new girlfriend before his marriage fell apart.

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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:00 PM
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22. Not exactly true
The ground floor of Gracie Mansion was used for public events. Mrs. Giuliani was still living upstairs with her children. Rudy saw nothing wrong with escorting his mistress to the public events downstairs, but his wife didn't want her children running into their father with the other woman. The judge saw it Mrs. Giuliani's way, and Rudy moved out into his gay friends' apartment.

In the middle of all this, Rudy discovered he had cancer. He tried to argue that his wife wasn't taking care of him. Well, considering what he'd just pulled, it's understandable.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:49 AM
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5. Just gave you a vote
because I DESPISE that SOB.

Thanks for posting this, Bluebear.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:17 AM
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16. Thank you.
America's mayor my ass.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:34 PM
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23. and 1 more kick just in case
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:58 AM
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6. Memo: NY City Hall Divided Over Handling of Post-9/11 Contamination
Democracy Now
Thursday, August 24th, 2006
Memo: NY City Hall Divided Over Handling of Post-9/11 Contamination
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/24/207231

...internal memo from a top official in the Health Department who was in charge of environmental hazards and who was coordinating the city's response to 9/11 on health issues, and also the deputy -- the commissioner of the Department of Environmental Protection, who was actually doing all the testing for asbestos throughout the city; both of them were very concerned about the air quality in Lower Manhattan and, in fact, were overruled by City Hall, by Mayor -- the Giuliani administration, their boss, who wanted to open up more areas around ground zero, because he was under pressure, according to the assistant commissioner, from the business community and building owners to allow more opening of areas around ground zero.

<snip>

But even more importantly, some of the data of the city's testing, which again has never gotten much attention and in fact the city withheld and is still withholding from public release some of those main tests, showed that in the five days after 9/11, before hundreds of thousands of people were given the all-clear to come back to work, that the city took 38 air tests in Lower Manhattan for asbestos and of those 38 tests, 27 of them, more than 70% of the tests that the city took, showed unsafe levels of asbestos in the air. And yet the city not only took months to post those results, but then when they did on their website, have still not posted the worst results that they got in the first few days. So there's real questions about actual withholding and burying of damaging air safety reports.
And yet the public was told everything is okay, it's okay to go back to work in that area.

<more>
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:14 AM
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9. Hey, No F*cking Sh*t!. F*ck all those dead people. We need business!
He even tried to convince New Yorkers that we should make him Mayor again! Uh, next, Rudy, next. We kind of planned to keep our Democracy you little brown shirt adultering sleaze bag drag queen (apologies and no offense meant to any drag queen other than the loser imposter).

And how do you just off and fly a f*cking passenger plane filled with people into the Pentagon and kill even more people? Was the * adminstration planning on having Pet Goats protect the country?
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:36 AM
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10. Bush and 'the mayor' gassed their own people.
Not once in that article did the word "Giuliani" appear. Giuliani is only referred to as "the mayor." Disgusting reporting.

Much more disgusting is his and Bush's disregard for the "Blue" city and citizens of New York.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:44 AM
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11. "Go shopping. "
Be a patriotic American and CONSUME! Go about your lives as normal! Safety, schmafety! Health, schmelf! We gotta show the terrurists they haven't won!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:02 AM
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12. Here's what I'd like to know. K&R
Why didn't the city, state, federal EPA people speak up, just one of them in any of those loops?

It's just a dreadful commentary on the human condition and our lemming like behavior.

There is no excuse that applies to letting people go unknowingly to a place that will harm or kill
them, no excuse. Yet none of them spoke up.

The workers who allowed this to happen are just as much to blame as Guilianni, and believe me, he's
got a boat load of blame.

Wow!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:04 AM
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13. Kick n/t
:kick:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:28 PM
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18. .
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:38 PM
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19. .
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:12 AM
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15. Guiliani always takes care of himself though
that's why he abandoned his new Office of Emergency Management in WTC7, even before there was any threat to the building. What did Guiliani know and when did he know it?

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 06:09 AM
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17. Uh-huh. The air was fine. That's why offices in my bank South of the WTC
had air monitoring equipment in place on the floors when we came back two weeks after the tragedy.
I knew that dust was a toxic brew...but of course, things *looked* clean. I worked there for almost two more years. I wonder what's down the road.

:scared:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:39 PM
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20. Sounds like Sheriff Brody and the 4th of July.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:57 PM
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24. He is sick MoFo!!!!
And That little fact does not keep him from exploiting the deaths for political reasons....

:puke:



Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, seen here February 2006, has come under fire from from Former head of the Environmental Protection Agency Christine Todd Whitman for not doing more to protect the health of September 11 rescuers.(AFP/Getty Images/File/Fernando Leon)

He needs a better dentist too.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:48 PM
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25. Why wouldn't he interview with Katie hmmm?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:46 PM
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26. Start that presidential campaign, Rudy!
Bastard.
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