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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:47 PM
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Wasn't Kindasleazy Rice in Europe a short time ago saying there
were no SECRET PRISONS!?!?!?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:51 PM
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1. Why is there no accountability?
Also, if Condi, Dick, Rummy, Gonzo, et al, were instructed to lie about torture, isn't that conspiracy? Same as when Cheney said he had no connections to Halliburton. When it came out that he did, he simply said he would donate any profit, with no mention of the original lie!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:52 PM
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2. I don't think she ever denied it...
she only said that the U.S. did not condone torture, either here or abroad, wink,wink, nod, nod. I'm thinking of her trip in December, she may have told some other lie some other time.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:57 PM
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3. The administration neither confirmed nor denied
As I recall. Here are Rice's comments before she left for Europe:

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2005/57602.htm

. . .

- The United States has respected -- and will continue to respect -- the sovereignty of other countries.

-- The United States does not transport, and has not transported, detainees from one country to another for the purpose of interrogation using torture.

-- The United States does not use the airspace or the airports of any country for the purpose of transporting a detainee to a country where he or she will be tortured.

-- The United States has not transported anyone, and will not transport anyone, to a country when we believe he will be tortured. Where appropriate, the United States seeks assurances that transferred persons will not be tortured.

International law allows a state to detain enemy combatants for the duration of hostilities. Detainees may only be held for an extended period if the intelligence or other evidence against them has been carefully evaluated and supports a determination that detention is lawful. The U.S. does not seek to hold anyone for a period beyond what is necessary to evaluate the intelligence or other evidence against them, prevent further acts of terrorism, or hold them for legal proceedings.

With respect to detainees, the United States Government complies with its Constitution, its laws, and its treaty obligations. Acts of physical or mental torture are expressly prohibited. The United States Government does not authorize or condone torture of detainees. Torture, and conspiracy to commit torture, are crimes under U.S. law, wherever they may occur in the world.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:00 PM
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4. However, she also made this cryptic statement
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4509250.stm

Ms Rice re-iterated that the US did not practise or condone torture, but said she could not rule out future abuse scandals.

"Will there be abuses of policy? That's entirely possible," Ms Rice said at a news conference.

"Just because you're a democracy it doesn't mean that you're perfect."

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