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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:41 AM
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Will someone tell me
just how making Iraq a democracy will "defeat the terrorists"? Thats one of many parts that I just dont get. I wish someone in the news corp had the guts to ask this question.
Maybe someone here can edumakate me.
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:43 AM
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1. I'm still trying to figure out....
how anyone thinks they can turn Iraq into a democracy through force...
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:08 AM
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14. Yep. It gives a whole NEW meaning to an old slogan.
"Live free or DIE!"
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:43 AM
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2. It means that Irraq will be a kind host for US military bases
and that it will free nice oil and pipelines and it will deal in dollars not Euros.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:43 AM
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3. I'm sure you already know this, but
in order to explain this to you in a way which makes any sense to you, we'd first have to have you lobotomized. Sorry.



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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:45 AM
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4. Here are some more parts I don't get...
if we're winning the "war", then how come al-qaeda has the ability to adapt to our tactics, and what does that mean? How are they adapting?

If we're winning the "war" where's the empirical evidence to back that up?

And yes, back to your point, if one of the hallmarks of the new "plan" is to prevent countries "like Iraq and Afghanistan" from harboring terrorists, then what about countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia? Didn't I just read that Pakistan has thrown in the towel?

:shrug:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:49 AM
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5. The American Oil companies will be in control of the oil
And they can get screwed by corporations just like the rest of the world.

I don't know what that has to do with the war on terra, but it is what the Oil companies and bu$h are after.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:50 AM
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6. It's not that hard
They believe that bad conditions in the middle east are fertile grounds for terrorists. A free democratic society such as ours does not create terrorists. Creating a successful Democracy in the middle east would accomplish two goals - first of all we would no longer have to fear Iraq, and secondly it would show the rest of the middle east that a successful democracy was possible. And if you believe, as they believe, that Democratic Capitalism will automatically outpace all other societies, it wouldn't be long before the peple in other islamic countries would be clamoring not to destroy the United States, but to bring democracy to their countries.

Obviously there are a number of weak points in this theory, but it is at least comprehendible.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:53 AM
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8. Bad Conditions in the ME -
you mean like an occupying army and a civl war?

Could that be the fertile breeding ground you mentioned?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:02 AM
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11. That's not what they are referring to
Perhaps I should make something clear - I Don't agree with invading Iraq and I don't agree with this theory as I presented it.

You can understand something and not agree with it - as a matter of fact I would say it is better to understand something and then reject it. Otherwise you are just putting up paper tigers for yourself to fight which will be of little use when faced with an actual tiger.

But to answer your question, no. They mean the conditions of poverty and class differentials and general lack of freedom that exists throughout the middle east (in their minds). Invading Iraq and making it a free democratic capaitalist and, above all, successful society is the solution, not the cause.

Bryant
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:51 AM
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7. Stop thinking! You're supposed to be scared! - n/t
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:00 AM
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10. HAHAHAHA Thats
the best answer so far. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
And, thank you to everyone else. You get a participation ribbon. :patriot:
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:55 AM
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9. "Democracy" Is Bush Administration "Code"
---- In the same manner that the Eastern Bloc once spouted about "liberation," the term "democracy" has become a neocon facade for "client state," and it necessarily implies political alignment with the PNAC-neocon junta that has co-opted the executive branch of the US government. Real democracy is not in Iraq's future.
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filer Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:05 AM
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12. It's all in the buzz word.
"Democracy" sells better to the goobers, the Repub base. Of course we all know, critical thinkers among us, that a democracy doesn't work so well unless it's compliant. A "compliant dictator" would suit our purposes better. Besides, this is not about what's best for the Iraqi people, never was...never will be. It's all about what we want, a permanent,
significant military presence in Iraq.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:07 AM
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13. Red one, red one
Subject using logic in sector 2 descend and apprehend!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:18 AM
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15. It's simple: if one miracle could be achieved, ...
then perhaps any other miracle could be achieved.

Of course, what hasn't been, and won't be, done is the achieving of the first miracle.
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