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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:38 AM
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THE "NUMBER" THIS MORNING IS 2657 AND RISING.
www.icasualties.org/oif/ for details.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:41 AM
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1. Terrible. No print or radio news of this in my local area.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:47 AM
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2. just needless and unnecessary death, this must stop
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:57 AM
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3. More info on Iraq yesterday -19 more bodies found
I think this is one of the most disturbing aspects of the path that the violence in Iraq is taking - every morning the authorities find bodies of people kidnapped and killed overnite. They are tortured and killed and then their bodies are dumped in the river or alongside roads. They have been tortured and then killed in various ways. They found 19 of these yesterday - but it is every nite that they find more.

www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/KHA624552.htm
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:57 AM
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4. Not one news cast on how the Iraq US dead now exceeds 911 dead
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 07:58 AM by papau
might be too political I guess -

so we will show a "Clinton caused it" lying docudrama fictional 911 movie instead - indeed with Scholastic Mag learning/teaching kits for teachers.

I love our media.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:00 AM
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5. I am trying to remember the news during the Viet nam War
and I think they had coverage of that war every single day - reporters were all over there in the jungle. I know Dan Rather was.

I watch for the news in our KCStar each day. There usually is some little bit of coverage on page 14 or 16 and that is it.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:58 AM
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10. I remember when my uncle was in Viet Nam in 1970...we all knew where..
Phnom Phen was...the news covered the war that thoroughly.I'm not saying that there wasn't spin,but I feel,even as a kid,I appreciated that there WAS a war,I knew where my uncle was,and I knew what was happening to our soldiers over there.As a soldier's mom-I could get NO news about my son's multiple deployments....days would go by.I relied on DU and icasualties.org to get my info.sad.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:43 AM
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8. here is that article
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:30 PM
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16. Thanks for posting CNN article - but it did not make the front page as
I recall - because I was looking for it on all the media pages on the Web and did not see it at any point on the front page of CNN.

Of course the last time I missed something I was looking for despite it being in front of my nose was about an hour ago - so I could be wrong :-)
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:28 AM
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6. I read the following earlier today......
on a different site than written below but it's the exact same information. Do you think it can be true? I tend to believe it in light of our secretive government.



http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2474/htm


"Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The actual death toll is in excess of 10,000. (See the official records at the end of this piece.) Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded (and a published total of 25,000 wounded overall,), this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 2,000+ now being officially published. When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate over12,000 dead, over 25,000 seriously wounded and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers, rapes, courts martial and so on -

The government gets away with these huge lies because they claim, falsely, that only soldiers actually killed on the ground in Iraq are reported. The dying and critically wounded are listed as en route to military hospitals outside of the country and not reported on the daily postings. Anyone who dies just as the transport takes off from the Baghdad airport is not listed and neither are those who die in the US military hospitals. Their families are certainly notified that their son, husband, brother or lover was dead and the bodies, or what is left of them (refrigeration is very bad in Iraq what with constant power outages) are shipped home, to Dover AFB. This, we note, was the overall policy until very recently. Since it became well known that many had died at Landstuhl, in Germany, the DoD began to list a very few soldiers who had died at other non-theater locations. These numbers are only for show and are pathetically small in relationship to the actual figures. You ought to realize that President Bush personally ordered that no pictures be taken of the coffined and flag-draped dead under any circumstances. He claims that this is to comfort the bereaved relatives but is designed to keep the huge number of arriving bodies secret. Any civilian, or military personnel, taking pictures will be jailed at once and prosecuted. Bush has never attended any kind of a memorial service for his dead soldiers and never will. He is terrified some parent might curse him in front of the press or, worse, attack him. As Bush is a terrible physical coward and in a constant state of denial, this is not a surprise."
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:52 AM
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9. I hate to say it but I wouldn't put anything past these people
It is very possible that the numbers are higher and it is just being covered up. They are spun and lied about just about everything else - why not this.

I do wish we would get more coverage on the corruption going on in the reconsturction process - it is huge. But that never seems to really make the news, either.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:58 PM
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14. I read that,too...I certainly hope that isn't the case...but
I wouldn't put it past these war criminals to do this.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:33 AM
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7. How High's The Water, Mama ?
6 ft high and rising and it will soon be over our heads.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:03 PM
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11. Funny you should mention that. I think about that everytime I
look up the day's stats.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:34 PM
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12. my latest ltte was inspired by this...
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 12:35 PM by w8liftinglady
The total today is 2657.2,657 men and women who will never return home.2,657 families whose lives have been shattered.The total today is 19,323.19,323 men and women who have been wounded in this war.8,991 will never return to duty.How have the Republicans supported our troops?Brain injuries are the trademark injury to our soldiers and marines in Iraq.The Republican-led House and Senate have voted to cut funding by 50% for the Brain Injury Program at the Veterans Administration.

http://www.vawatchdog.org/old%20newsflashes%20AUG%2006/newsflash08-09-2006-10.htm

Helmet liners to prevent Traumatic brain injury have not been provided to many marines,due to LACK OF FUNDS,necessitating a private charity,Operation Helmet,to provide these.When it comes to voting on Veteran's issues,Republicans score less than 30%,while Democrats score 80% or above.Our own Joe Barton was given a ZERO by the Disabled American Veterans.You can see for yourself here:

http://www.vawatchdog.org/old%20newsflashes%20MAY%2006/newsflash05-14-2006-1.htm

The Melancon amendment was introduced to provide an increase to veteran spending of $52 million to accommodate the huge influx of newly disabled veterans.It was voted down by a Republican majority...care to see how OUR representatives voted?

http://www.techpolitics.org/congress/1091vote224.php

So,let's see...who REALLY supports our troops?Want more evidence on the Republican vendetta against our soldiers and veterans?Go to http://www.vawatchdog.org/
My son is a new veteran,and I can't allow this to continue without a fight.Is it any coincidence that 49 of 50 veterans who are seeking office are running as Democrats?You be the judge.Support the troops-vote for a change
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:46 PM
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13. this needs to be kicked...this is a pivotal issue for Americans.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:00 PM
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15. You won't see this number on MSM
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