Didn't some 9/11 families not take the government bribe to not sue?

[NNN0LHI]

What happened to their lawsuit? Any word on this? Court dates, depositions or anything?

Don

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Interesting thing about that settlement is that by settling with

those people the government was admitting that they were responsible for 9/11 and were obliged to pay damages.

[mp3hound]

2. I don't think so

I seem to recall that part of the settlement agreement included a specific clause disclaiming responsibility and legal liability - not surprising, though, since 99.9% of all legal settlement documents include such a proviso.

Edit: to correct a typographical error

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. Sure, we will pay you a million dollars, but we didn't do anything wrong.

[mp3hound]

4. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

But yeah, that's how it works. Settlement agreements almost always include explicit "no admission of liability" language.

[MidwestTransplant]

5. Welcome to DU. BTW I think most familes took the dea. An acquaintance of

mine did not and I belive she got more from the airlines.

[mp3hound]

7. Thank you for the welcome.

And yes, I think you're right about most people accepting the gov't offer. I don't doubt for a second that those who went outside of the gov't offers got more than they otherwise would have. I'd have rejected the initial gov't offer too, personally, had I been in their position.

But to get back on topic, I'm willing to bet that the settlement agreement that your acquaintance reached with the airline also included "no liability" language as it is standard, and nobody would ever settle and pay out on a claim without it.

[MidwestTransplant]

8. Yes, I am sure it had that language. Also they are generally required

to be confidential so the amount given can't be disclosed....don't want other plaintiffs to know, etc.

[mp3hound]

9. Yes, there is almost always a confidentiality agreement too.

particularly as it relates to monetary settlement.

[flyarm]

6. i just read about the suit about a week ago..i can't find it in my files

though..

but there is a snafu by the plantiffs lawyers..and it seemed if i remember correctly some of the 9/11 families were getting worried about their own lawyers..i will keep looking in my files..if i can find it i will post it here..

fly

[pitohui]

10. ellen mariana is the widow who did not accept the settlement

she is an older lady on social security whose husband was killed

most families had to look at the reality of replacing the lost income of the deceased, and many (such as the cantor fitzgerald dead) would have easily earned a couple million or much more over their lives, there is no way for a widow to get the kind of job that would ever replace such an income, so to be real, people took the settlements

however ellen mariana was already in her 60s and said she didn't care about the money, she decided to bring a lawsuit to force the * administration to answer some questions

i have not heard anything lately tho, civil lawsuits can be quite protracted, five years is nothing, quite possibly it's still in discovery but the usa gov't will stonewall this forever until the lady dies i'm sure

i used to have a copy of her original court filing, it's quite pointed and includes some of the questions that other 911 widows have raised about why the attacks were allowed to happen despite adequate warning that they were being planned

you could probably google her okay

i think she's on a par w. sheehan for trying to bring attention to *'s crimes but she has not been so successful as she hoped in getting publicity, even tho she passed up a million dollars -- i wonder how many of US would pass up such a sum just to irritate the *? i don't think i could quite manage it...it would be a great media story if the media really cared