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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:11 PM
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Why, once again, Big Ed Schultz simply doesn't get it....
Sorry - I know that this is a bit after the fact, but I took some time to think things over...and this is the first time I've been on my laptop since my drive home. The major topic on the Ed Schultz show was his endless braying at the Dems for going after Rumsfeld NOW. While admitting that I am sorely disappointed at the Dems in so many ways for letting the misadministration and its various dismemebers off of the hook countless times, I think that Ed's response was symptomatic of something that is truly, horribly wrong.

Ed is treating this as if it is a novella - a PR campaign and nothing more. He is looking at it as if this is a ploy to get some people off of the fence and supporting big changes in the upcoming election. (I can't count the number of times he hammered this home - of saying that those who listen to talk radio are the informed, the news junkies - and the vast, vast majority of Americans don't pay attention and couldn't care less. I don't think it is nearly as simple as that, and certainly don't count the Limpballs listeners and their ilk as well informed!).

Well, the point I want to make is that Rumsfeld has to go now - ASAP - because our young are dying over there. And that this is a completely, utterly failed misadministration, with utterly failed approaches to everything. Each and every day that they are in power is a continuation, a compounding of the disaster. The deaths in Iraq are not a PR ploy - they are a reality. A main architect of the war and our policy is the arrogant Rumsfeld...and he must go! Sure the Dems are days late and dollars short at getting on board with this, letting the playing of politics getting in the way of the good of the country. But if the time to do this is now, go for it....it doesn't matter if it is going to get people voting for the Dems in the election - it is the right thing to do.

What really frustrates me the most of all of this is that we have a PR presidency. It is probably only a PR culture, with crap TV shows and lots of time spent on things that don't matter. Geesh, the nightly news, and even the Schultz and other shows, seem to be no more than 30-40% content and the rest advertisements of snake oil products for the gullible public. As a country we appear to have lost our collective intellect and curiosity (and I blame our idiot, ignorant so called president for setting the cultural direction on this topic).

THE BEST WAY TO PREDICT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS LOOKING AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THOSE CURRENTLY IN POWER ARE UTTER FAILURES - AND WILL BE NOTHING BUT. THEY DO NOT DESERVE ANY MORE CHANCES. IT IS NOT ABOUT PR - IT IS ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH.

Man, I am so, so frustrated and fed up. Well, I've said my piece for this evening.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:16 PM
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1. AAR Should Have released Big Eddie Instead of...



Mike Malloy.....I frankly think Ed is in to the celerity of his occupation than into being a legit talk show host that supports the fundementals of the DEMOCRATIC Party....Mike Was PASSIONATE about his political leanings....
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:18 PM
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4. Seconded
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:19 PM
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5. Ed is on the Jones Radio Network, not on AAR
though he IS broadcast on a lot of AAR stations. But he is syndicated through Jones.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:19 PM
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6. I dont think he works for
AAR does he?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:20 PM
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8. Ed isn't with AAR, but many AAR affiliates carry him including
mine, which is why I find myself watching the SciFi channel at that time instead.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:20 PM
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9. Schultz isn't AAR. He's Jones Radio (carried on many of the same stations)
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:21 PM
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10. Big Ed is not with AAR.
He is with the Jones Radio Network. I, too am tired of his schtick.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:17 PM
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2. While I understand your frustration,
and I don't completely agree with Ed, what I got from his show today is "where have the dems been on this issue prior to now". Rummy hasn't changed overnite. He has always been like he is now. There should have been condemnation long ago.
I think Ed is just scared that we are gonna blow it in Nov if we aren't ON message.
ED is too important a voice for our side to let a few disagreements dissuade our support of his views. We have precious few voices and should applaud them all. They cant all be KO's.:)
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:20 PM
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7. Yes, agree - where have they been??? BUT -
does it matter when each day of Rummy in power means another day of failed policies and death to our service folk, as well as continued and increasing bad blood due to our policies? Sure we can be on message - and perhaps the message needs to be that we care for what happens to our people and to the world more than the PR and BS of politics.....

thanks for your thoughtful response to my mini rant!
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:18 PM
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3. Ed Shultz worries me
Just have a gut feeling he is not so much on our side anymore.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:22 PM
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11. he has such a whiney voice. It really grates on me.
I do agree that they should go after rummy now. As one caller said, it puts the repubs on the defensive. It's an empty rovelike tactic. But, they deserve it.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:23 PM
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12. My take on Big Eddie:
He definitely isn't as far to the left as I am, and sometimes I do get frustrated, because I think he needs to spend a bit more time researching issues, and a little less time out on the lake. What I do like about his show is that he has a lot of guests on, especially senators and representatives, which I like.

Eddie is definitely not my fav, and since he has the noon to 1:00 slot on Seattle's AAR station, I usually listen online to Randi. However, I think that he IS someone that a person who is beginning to see the Righties for the liars and blowhards they really are, could listen to. He is a good "starting point", if you will, for people who have primarily leaned to the right, or are stuck in the center. I would not foist Randi on someone like that, but I think Eddie would be someone that, say, my two brothers would listen to.

My 2 cents.
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:52 PM
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17. I agree
I've gotta wonder about Big Eddie sometimes. I've even doubted on occasion how genuine he is. But assuming he's real, he performs a valuable function in that he has the ability to speak to all those middle Americans out there who might have the gut feeling that they are being used and screwed over but at the same time are almost hardwired not to trust "Liberals".
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:26 PM
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13. Indeed, it never seemed to occur to him that calling for Rummy's
resignation might just be the right thing to do. He's looking at it as if it's a political move and nothing more.

Kerry's been calling for the bastard's resignation for a couple of years now. And Boxer doesn't strike me as the kind of person to play politics. She's doing this because it's right, not because it's going to get them more votes.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:37 PM
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14. He's an egotitical blowhard.
How well I remember his comments just before Katrina hit NO. Something to the effect, if anybody can't get out of town, they deserve to suffer the consequences. Geeez, did that piss me off. Never, ever listened to him since then. I seem to recall Mike Molloy calling Shultz a closet right wing whacko. Frankly, he can take his football and fishing stories and shove em'. If, as some claim that he supposedly represents left wing talk radio, we are doomed.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:43 PM
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15. I Heard That Too And Got Pissed
He seriously does the GOP a favor by doing this shit! And I, don't appreciate it, nor did I when he went after Dean, or when he criticized some for talking about Impeachment, or how about his stance with Alito?

Fuck him... I don't think he smells right.
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AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:49 PM
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16. Going after Rumsfeld NOW is a good plan
notice Repubs only want to keep talking about the justification for going to war. Now using all the WWII analogies. They sure as hell don't want to talk about how the war is going. Attacking Rummy forces them to defend him and defend the way the war has been waged.
When they do that they look out of touch and in denial.
thats my take
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:26 PM
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18. you can't fire your boss
Cheney, Rummy and the other neo-cons are more the boss than bushie is.
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