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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:26 PM
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Simply incredible interview with Nowrasteh
Man it's so frustrating because what he says is such bullshit and there is no way to rebut it. Sheesh. Read the interview here... http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23865

How about this for pure horsehockey:

FP: When you refer to the failed effort to stop Bin Laden in the 1990s, this was obviously the time of Bill Clinton. How much do you think his administration made us vulnerable to 9/11?

Nowrasteh: The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response -- or lack of response -- to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep attacking American interests. The worst example is the response to the October, 2000 attack on the U.S.S. COLE in Yemen where 17 American sailors were killed. There simply was no response. Nothing.


Of course the interviewer doesn't question this tripe. Think back to October 2000. Clinton was the lamest of lame ducks by that point. Bush had been elected, the neocons were in celebration mode and there was no way they'd let Clinton do anything about the Cole. He doesn't mention that Congress had no response either.

We've got to stop this "docudrama" now. Keep emailing and calling ABC and their sponsors!



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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:31 PM
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1. * wasn't selected until Dec. 12, 2000...
IIRC, and the election hadn't even been held yet, until Novemeber 2, I believe. Not to nitpick, but a freep would try to use these kind of minor points to bolster their bullshit arguments against Clinton. Keep your facts straight and they'll never have an in.
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:33 PM
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2. well said... n/t
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:52 PM
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5. Whoops MY BAD!
It just occurred to me that October is BEFORE November. LOL Thanks for keeping me on my toes. Gotta love Dems/Progressives for their obsession with facts! :)
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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:02 PM
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8. Indeed...
I'm just glad that you didn't take it all personally and such. To be honest, I wouldn't have noticed had I not just read an LTTE from a freep-type that based a whole, multi-paragraph, anti-Clinton tirade on just such an error in chronology.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:33 PM
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3. Go here for the link to ABC, and BITCH
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:47 PM
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4. cole: clinton was on top of it. had john oneil investigating
oneil was puled off investigation by fbi dudes when bush got in and bush said they werent going to do anything, even though oneil had the info they needed because bush said, would be like swatting them with a flyswatter

so the comment by the person is false. as is about all these people say.

clinton did his job. when bush got elected in nov clinton held off so bush could do it his way. but the info was htere for bush to make the decision. his decision was to do nothing about it.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:02 PM
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7. Meticulous Frontline documentary on John O'Neill. Well worth watching.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/

Clinton did nothing? That's a crock.

AFAIC, it stinks to high heaven that the number one man capable of tracking bin Laden ended up in the World Trade Center.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:07 PM
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9. i watched that. that, along with this
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 07:10 PM by seabeyond
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&hl=en

says a lot. but i hear ya, that was a good watch. everyone should see it. to many coincidences. i watched another on oneil that was like 3 hours and in blocks.

on edit: i jsut wentin. this was it. very good.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:35 PM
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10. I saw that.
Too bad it was on PBS instead of ABC. It's sad and somewhat ironic that he died in the SECOND WTC attack. The one that they got away with. Thanks I bookmarked the link.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:55 PM
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6. Nowrasteh conveniently forgot "Wag the Dog", which is what
Clinton's detractors had been saying about anything and everything he did or tried to do against the terrorists, because of course, he only did it to try to distract us from the Monica Mess.

Gawd, I don't know how much more blatant ABC can get. They might as well put a statement on the screen before this pices of crap airs, saying "We at ABC are proud supporters of the GOP campaign of lies."

:grr:
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:40 PM
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11. Even though I messed up the timeline...
my point remains and is the same as yours. What the hell could Clinton have done? He'd asked Congress to expand wiretapping and was shot down. The 'Cons were all about electing Bush and painting Clinton as the devil. He'd never have gotten anything through Congress.

Write your local affiliate. I did. Send it to the GM of the station and demand that they run disclaimers every 15 mins saying the program is a WORK OF FICTION. Give the local affiliates HELL!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:46 PM
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12. SPIELBERG & my man Oliver STONE work with this dude
Steverino is using him on a project about the U.S. conquering the West. He's also departing his formerly uber-Dem history by endorsing his pal Ahhhnuld. And Oliver was the Executive Producer for this dude's, "The Day (RAYGUN) Was Shot" (not the same as the ex-CBS docudrama on the RAYGUNS). Ah, we Libs are SO generous. We give a leg up to our enemies while backing ourselves off cliffs.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:57 PM
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13. yep, simply incredible BS
Sam Seder on the Majority Report just had a segment about the puke-arama and the events after the USS Cole bombing--it's utter BS-Sam made the point about the timing of the Cole attack and that it was Tenant's call for response-you know, that Tenant who was also there before and during 9/11 attacks? I remember when Clinton attempted to pass a bill to track terrorist monies and the REPUBLICAN Congress voted against it. I mean, who might be funding these terrorists? Randi commented, what I have said all along, it seems that this administration has appeased OBL-getting rid of Saddam (believe it or not, no friend of OBL), shutting down our biggest AFB in Saudi Arabia (the base may have been the catalyst of OBL going rogue), a perpetual war in Iraq thus increasing terrorist recruitment. Remember who was with Poppy watching the towers burn? Remember who got to fly out of our country, while the rest of us were grounded? Then, there's Pakistan-a country who has nukes, unlike Iran. We forgave their debt to the US, we're giving them aid-yet, their Gen. Mamoudi (sp) wired money to Atta. You know, one of the alleged terrorists? Now, the government of Pakistan saying that OBL can live in peace? I mean, OBL is our original boogie man, now we got lots of boogie men, so he's not that important anymore. Right? This administration had nine months, but people like Ashcroft were more interested in arresting prostitutes, medicinal marijuana users and poor Chong with his bongs!!!! This administration was warned--what upsets me the most is that Condi's 9/11 testimony may not even see the light of day in this tripe of a film. And, now ABC wants to spoon feed this propaganda piece to our children? I am so glad my children are grown--cause I'd be fighting the classroom in which they showed this propaganda fest!!!!!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:27 PM
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14. Yep..
This administration had nine months, but people like Ashcroft were more interested in arresting prostitutes, medicinal marijuana users and poor Chong with his bongs!!!!

Forgot about that. Terrorism was the furthest thing from this admin's mind. They were giddy about implementing their NeoCon agenda.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:50 PM
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15. Yes, that same Tenet who sat behind Colonic Powell at the U.N.
as Powell gave his "the sky is falling" speech about WMD.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:30 AM
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16. and so graciously recieved the Medal of Freedom from Bush
for his "wonderful job" handling the 9/11 info. It's enough to make ya wanna :puke:
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