A *really* interesting email I got about Bush and booze

[WilliamPitt]

I'm not going to give the name of the person who wrote this, of course, and I cannot verify the accuracy of what he/she is saying, but this just smacks of a true story. Decide for yourselves.

The emphasis below was added by me, and I have deleted some references (using *******) that might tend to reveal this person's identity.

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Update - The Ballad of Dumb George

Enjoyed the article. Will also forward to you an article that appeared in Dallas regarding Bush's decision mind set & how & why he makes the decisions he does.

You are right - Bush is still drinking.

He may not be a master of semantics - but Karen Hughes or somebody else is that works for him.

Bush still drinks BUT he only drinks a half glass of white wine or champaign, and he is very, very deliberate and precise in ordering and consuming only a half a glass @ a time..

Hence, if a journalist - who you will have to admit are very poor questioners or interrogators otherwise many of his escapades would have been brought to life in a timely fashion (Did anyone ever ask him is he had EVER been DETAINED by the police rather than ARRESTED?) - asks him if he had a drink since he says he went sober he would say no.

Why? Because semantically when someone asks if you have had a drink the language reference is to a drink, a FULL DRINK. When cops ask you if you have been drinking they are referring to multiple drinks because almost no one has just one - but if you have had just one you weren't really "drinking" you had a drink. The cops language is deliberate.

So is Bush's choice of words.

Bush knows you are referring to a FULL DRINK if you ask if he has had a "drink" or has been "drinking" - so by having a half drink semantically he can - in his mind - justifiably answer no.

He had half glasses of white wine around 1999 or 2000 @ a pool side fund raiser @ the home of Ward Lay (Lay's potato chips- FritoLay - Pepsico & yes, THE Ken Lay was there also) .

He also had half glasses of champaign in Dallas @ another Dallas fund raiser around the same time. The alcohol was different BUT it was always very specifically and deliberately a half a glass - and no more.

In addition, there was a report from the former head of security of the ******* Hotel in ******* that during Bush' initial primary campaign around 2000 he stayed three times @ that hotel.

Each of the three times he was about to visit SHE received THREE phone calls from his advance men and each time they called they had only ONE request or question - had all the rooms, suites or space that Bush had access to been swept clean of all alcohol - including those small airline liquor bottles that are often present in hotels.

She is talking because she was let go by the ********* Hotel and she is suing for sex discrimination - the more secrets she tells the greater the desire for the hotel to settle the suit.

You might also like to know that Ward Lay, Bush 43 & another prominent Dallas family joined together to buy around 500,000 acres of land in Argentina - apparently for both the mineral rights
(oil/mining ?) and ranching.

Apparently, Ward Lay already has a large ranch down there & when Bush last went to that area of ***** he stayed @ Lay's ******** ranch.

P.S.

How do I know what I know - I know the bartender that served him.

[Horse with no Name]

1. He has the physical traits of those that drink

and those that drink heavily.

[Name removed]

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[acmavm]

3. So he thinks that he is being honest by diddling the truth? Crap, that's

like the 'being a little pregnant' scenario. Neither one are possible. Either you drink (which includes a half a glass or a whole gallon) alcohol or you don't. He's just showing how amazingly dishonest with himself (and the rest of the world) he is.

[EstimatedProphet]

10. That's an old trick of alcoholics

It lets them lie to themselves easily.

[KittyWampus]

24. I do the same thing with ice cream and cake. Well, I'll just have ONE

small dish or ONE small sliver...

[EstimatedProphet]

54. I admit I do the same thing

Of course, when we have more ice cream or cake, we don't declare illegal war on a nation...

[enid602]

4. Bush

Sounds like Bush is trying to fool himself as much as he is anyone else. Half glasses, indeed.

[femrap]

26. 12 oz. tumbler glasses?

I bet he sneaks booze.

And what about the 'jaw tic.' I haven't seen it lately....but after Katrina, his jaw was twitching like crazy. Too much Prozac?

[Scout1071]

5. So far, all of these incidents named look like they take place

six or seven years ago. I wish it were something more current.

[Scout1071]

15. I hope we don't spend a lot of time worrying whether he's on or off the

wagon. I noticed in the email that it says that he orders half a glass of wine. Something tells me that if Bush were ordering alcohol, he wouldn't likely do it himself.

With everything going on today, I think that if we make a big issue of this, with reports being 6-7 years old, it's not going to get us anywhere.

Back to getting Dems elected in November..........

[loves_dulcinea]

28. i think manhandling

the german chancellor might count; or when he took the baton of the band leader and poked the flautist. i had visions of yeltsin attempting to conduct. at least yeltsin wanted to conduct a musical group, and not use the baton as a proxy phallus (our brave leader flubbed that by poking her in the arm, must be that's what his mommy showed him).

[Scout1071]

29. He's an idiot whether sober or drunk.

I'm not sure that proves anything. But, the Chancellor incident is suspicious.

I don't know. I'm just saying I don't think we should focus on this right now. There are so many things that we can do to affect the Nov 2006 elections and focusing our energy on this kind of stuff just isn't going to get us there.

Will knows that I greatly respect him, so the above isn't a knock on him whatsoever. Just my opinion.

[HereSince1628]

6. Yeah believable because I am prejudiced against Bush.

But if this is a copy of the email, honestly it seems that ********* is an unnamed source of an unnamed source.

I know I'm prejudiced to hope to believe this, but I have to apologize that my urban myth skepticism alarm is ringing.

[elehhhhna]

34. Was the author named Jan Mark Karr?

maybe.

[tulsakatz]

7. if this really is Bush's thinking........

...it's the kind of justification a drunk might offer.

A drink is a drink, whether you have one sip or a whole bottle!!

Even a police officer might ask you how much you've had to drink if he suspects intoxication.......as in, I know you've been drinking, the only question is how much.

[NYCGirl]

8. My first question would be — with Secret Service guys and handlers

constantly around him, why would Bush order a drink and not have someone else get it for him? That's fishy.

[MADem]

9. 1992 wedding video. This is not really any great shock

He was over forty, when he supposedly "took the pledge" and eschewed alcohol, when this video was made. He insults the bride, or is it the groom, for being boring and not drinking and smoking.

Only in America, indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fi389JwjTQ&mode=related&search=

[guinivere]

11. I'm not surprised.

Once a weasely lying little asshat, always a ...

[Nickster]

12. Interesting stuff. Sounds plausible, but we'll never really know.

Alcoholics like to justify and rationalize everything they do. "If I just have one drink and no more, I can control it". "If I only have one drink an hour, I won't get drunk. If I don't get drunk, I can't be an alcoholic." and on and on. Knowing how Dubya likes to parse his language, I can easily see how he'd think a game like half glasses would make sense. "I never said Al-Qaida and Saddam Hussein had a direct connection".

[Tunkamerica]

13. this email is bullshit

he may drink or he may not, but this email is a load of crap.

[WilliamPitt]

16. I'm curious why you think so

[struggle4progress]

30. (1) Bush doesn't exhibit the linguistic talent required for such delicate

.. parsing of semantics; and (2) available evidence does not suggest that Bush has such a conscientious commitment to literal truth. Bush stumbles over the simplest words and has repeatedly lied.

If the story were true, of course, then it is only to Bush's credit, that as a recovered alcoholic he is able to drink entirely socially, imbibing only carefully controlled small amounts. Perhaps a majority of recovered alcoholics, however, find it best to avoid drinking completely.

[elehhhhna]

37. Nobody said Bush thought of his BS answers himself, silly! Also:

this is disturbing:

"If the story were true, of course, then it is only to Bush's credit, that as a recovered alcoholic he is able to drink entirely socially, imbibing only carefully controlled small amounts."

So...if he's lying and boozing that's actually a GOOD thing?

If you discover that he only snorts one line at a time and only through his left nostril will you respect him even more?

Thought so.

[struggle4progress]

39. That Bush routinely lies is, I think, obvious. Whether anyone ..

.. would care if Bush had a few half-glasses of wine irregularly, I doubt, although considering his alcoholic history I find this aspect of the story not very credible: anyway, the story, if true, would provide zilch traction since irregular token imbibition only suggests self-discipline.

Of course, if he's boozing again, that's a different story. Prove it and win my undying adulation ..

[Tunkamerica]

59. how do i know it's bullshit?

the guy who worked with that bartender told me he's a liar.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

61. ... chuckle ...

[JHB]

14. The language game depicted rings true...

...from people who were very precise in the way they mixed Saddam and 9/11 but were very careful not to actually claim he had a hand in it.

[Cleita]

53. That didn't came from Bush that came from the talking points

distributed to everyone, by I assume the PNAC advisors, or maybe Karl Rove. It's been used by all the conservative talking heads and elected officials, and the unelected fraud himself.

[pat_k]

17. Perhaps if his ADD had ever been properly treated,

. . . Bush's life would have followed a very different course.

Few associate ADD and alcohol abuse, but they go hand in hand (lack of impulse control and all).

Something else that is not widely known is that cravings for alcohol tend to evaporate when someone with ADD is correctly diagnosed and treatted with stimulants.

If his family weren't so skilled at denial, perhaps he would not have become the most dangerous man on the planet.

[Mira]

18. If he is drinking ANY alcohol - he is drinking. Period.

A true alcoholic, which is what we are dealing with, is not a person who can stick with half a glass.
He may be able to do that at a function, but the pump will be primed and most of the time it will lead to drinking to excess later.
His pre-occupation will be with how to get more, and how to get away from the observers to where he can get it.
That is what separates the drunks from "civilians".

If his surroundings have to be searched for alcohol to keep him sober, then a real decision to remain sober has not been made. That would be the most critical part of any sobriety program, just as in a decision to stop smoking. Same thing.
Once you have permission to break that vow, it's all lost. You turn into a person whose knuckles turn white while you wait for the next opportunity to "sin" some more.
The only way for him to stay sober is a genuine commitment to total abstinence.
One drink is too many and after that a thousand is not enough.

Ask me, or any AA member, how I know.

Much would be explained by continued use of alcohol. The deterioration, the flushed face, the stumbling over words, the early bedtime and above all the inability to correctly count the number of books he has read this year.

Geez. It's a new version of "I did not have sex with that woman". Semantics over how much alcohol constitutes a drink.
Gimme a break.

[knitter4democracy]

41. I was thinking AA's definition, too.

I doubt any sponsor would let him get away with that behavior.

My mom is a recovering alcoholic. She did it through faith, similar to Bush, but she also stays away from all temptation and calls me or friends to go with her if she will be around anyone drinking. It's been years since her last drink, but she knows that even one sip would probably put her over the edge and start it all over again.

[mcscajun]

43. Of course, since Bush never went to AA, he's been "sponsor-free"

and able to jump on and off the wagon as he pleases.

[Laurab]

48. You're quite right, but I understand the semantics thing

as I did that kind of thing for a couple of years before I stopped drinking. One of my tricks was, I was going to have "one drink" - a friend of mine kept filling the glass, and told me it still counted as "one drink", and of course, I was happy to agree.

I did other things, too - just white wine (it doesn't count, you know), "just this once", and hell, if I'd have thought of half a glass, I'd have done that, too.

I've been sober 21 years, but I remember well all the things I did before getting sober.

I think it would be impossible for * to have 1/2 glass, but how MANY 1/2 glasses are we talking? I do kind of lean toward believing he still drinks - heavily, because of his many physical mishaps that he CAN'T hide or blame on advisors. It would go a long way (although not long enough), toward explaining a lot of his actions. I can't think of anything that would go long enough, really. He AND his administration can't all be drunk all the time....

[PresidentWar]

19. Beautiful!! "Define....'is'...?"

This is akin to Newtzie Gingrich repelling any criticism of his marital values, because getting a blow job "wasn't ACTUALLY SEX".

[speedoo]

20. No doubt in my mind he's drinking now.

He has always been a dry drunk, at best. As proven by the 1992 video, he clearly has bouts of binge drinking, and IMO he has been drinking more lately.

His "born again" status is also bullshit. All carefully constructed by Rove.

[hyphenate]

21. Most of us have been saying pretty much

that same thing for a long time now--it's gratifying to see that we're not the crazy bedbugs the rowdy right thinks we are.

It's noticeable sometimes. Like that interview, what was it, last week, when the idiot FINALLY came out and admitted that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. The look of arrogance on his face was pure and completely evil, and wholly lit by a gut of alcohol.

Some of us have said he's acted like a "dry drunk" for a long time now, but if he is, in actuality, having a keg or two, it explains a great deal.

[IChing]

22. The land deal is true.....LINK HERE:

>>>>>snip

"You'll find the same attention to detail next door at Andeluna Cellars (andeluna.com). Originally part of a well-known Argentine wine family's estate, the property was sold in 1995 to H. Ward Lay, the son of Frito-Lay founder Herman Lay. A longtime fan of Argentina -- Lay also owns a 200,000-acre hunting estate in Patagonia -- Andeluna is a wine lover's paradise. There are four tasting areas, a demonstration kitchen for cooking classes, and an elegant restaurant with wonderful pastas and other Italian-influenced dishes.">>>>>snip

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_18/b3982095.htm

[me b zola]

32. Argentina is where many nazis fled after WWII

I have always believed that if bush* were to be sought for crimes against humanity Argentina is where he would go. Interesting about Lay.

[elehhhhna]

36. You bet your sweet Aspercreme they LOVE Argentina:

If an Argentine isn't filthy rich, he's poor as hell. Easier to tell who's who at a glance.

[jus_the_facts]

23. Bushes...Moons....South America...... Contras...Coke and Water....

http://www.cosortiumnews.com/2004/101504.html

Kerry Attacker Protected Rev. Moon
By Robert Parry
October 15, 2004


Carlton Sherwood, who has produced an anti-John Kerry video that will be aired across the United States before the Nov. 2 elections, wrote a book in the 1980s denouncing federal investigators who tried to crack down on Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s illicit financial operations.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/090704.html

Mysterious Republican Money
By Robert Parry
September 7, 2004


If House Speaker Dennis Hastert were really concerned about drug profits being laundered into the U.S. political process, he would not be sliming billionaire financier George Soros with that suspicion. Hastert would be looking at a principal conservative funder: South Korean theocrat Sun Myung Moon.

During this time of transition, Sun Myung Moon brought his evangelical message to South America. His first visit to Argentina had occurred in 1965 when he blessed a square behind the presidential Pink House in Buenos Aires. But he returned a decade later to make more lasting friendships. Moon first sank down roots in Uruguay during the 12-year reign of right-wing military dictators who seized power in 1973. He also cultivated close relations with military dictators in Argentina, Paraguay and Chile, reportedly ingratiating himself with the juntas by helping the military regimes arrange arms purchases and by channeling money to allied right-wing organizations.

“Relationships nurtured with right-wing Latin Americans in the League led to acceptance of the Church’s political and propaganda operations throughout Latin America,” the Andersons wrote in Inside the League. “As an international money laundry, … the Church tapped into the capital flight havens of Latin America. Escaping the scrutiny of American and European investigators, the Church could now funnel money into banks in Honduras, Uruguay and Brazil, where official oversight was lax or nonexistent.”

Moon’s organization also funneled money to the United States with the goal of helping friendly U.S. politicians and hurting others who were considered unfriendly. In the late 1970s, a congressional investigation into South Korea’s influence-buying operations in Washington – the so-called Koreagate scandal – implicated Moon and traced the church’s chief sources of money to bank accounts in Japan, but could follow the cash no further.

Cocaine Coup

In 1980, Moon made more friends in South America when Bolivia’s Cocaine Coup plotters seized power in a terrifying alliance of fledgling cocaine cartels, international neo-Nazis and right-wing Bolivian military officers. Before the coup, WACL associates, such as Alfred Candia, allegedly had coordinated the arrival of some of the paramilitary operatives who assisted in the violent coup.

Afterwards, one of the first well-wishers arriving in La Paz to congratulate the new government was Moon’s top lieutenant, Bo Hi Pak. The Moon organization published a photo of Pak meeting with the new strongman, General Garcia Meza. After the visit to the mountainous capital, Pak declared, “I have erected a throne for Father Moon in the world’s highest city.”

According to later Bolivian government and newspaper reports, a Moon representative invested about $4 million in preparations for the coup. Bolivia’s WACL representatives also played key roles, and CAUSA, one of Moon’s anti-communist organizations, listed as members nearly all the leading Bolivian coup-makers.

Soon, Colonel Luis Arce-Gomez, a coup organizer and the cousin of cocaine kingpin Roberto Suarez, went into partnership with big narco-traffickers, including Trafficante’s Cuban-American smugglers. Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie and his young neo-fascist followers found new work protecting Bolivia's major cocaine barons and transporting drugs to the border. “The paramilitary units – conceived by Barbie as a new type of SS – sold themselves to the cocaine barons,” German journalist Kai Hermann wrote. “The attraction of fast money in the cocaine trade was stronger than the idea of a national socialist revolution in Latin America.”

The available evidence now shows that there was much more to the contra drug issue than either the Reagan-Bush administration or Moon’s organization wanted the American people to know in the 1980s. The evidence – assembled over the years by inspectors general at the CIA, the Justice Department and other federal agencies – indicates that Bolivia’s Cocaine Coup government was only the first in a line of drug enterprises that tried to squeeze under the protective umbrella of Ronald Reagan’s favorite covert operation, the contra war.

This story was adapted from Robert Parry's book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq. A 27-year veteran of Washington journalism, Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra scandal stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek.


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The scorching sun beats relentlessly on one of Latin America's most desolate zones. It is here in the northern province of Chaco, directly above the GuaranI aquifer, the largest resource of fresh drinking water in the world, where Moon's associates claim he wishes to build an ecological paradise.

Nevertheless, national Senator Domingo Laino sees a different pattern in Moon's acquisitions. "There are two principal branches to Moon's interest in Paraguay," he said, "control of the largest fresh drinking water source in the world and control of the narcotics business", which is so prevalent in this area. "President Lula told me that Brazil took serious measures to curb Moon a few years back as it became evident that he was buying up the border between our two countries," said the senator.

http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/2004/10/paraguayans-accuse-moon-of-carving-out.html

[jus_the_facts]

33. fixed first link...about John Kerry...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/101504.html



Now, nearly two decades after Kerry’s contra cocaine investigation, Moon’s organization is trying to keep its old adversary out of the White House and away from control of the Justice Department.

On a number of topics, the Washington Times has led the way in battering Kerry. For instance, as Kerry emerged as the Democratic frontrunner this year, the newspaper promoted an investigative report questioning whether Kerry was lying when he said some foreign leaders favored him over George W. Bush. Though clearly many foreign leaders did favor a change in the White House, the Times opened up a line of attack against Kerry’s honesty and internationalism that has continued to this day.

Also popping up again is Carlton Sherwood, who has produced a video that virtually calls Kerry a traitor for his anti-Vietnam War activities. The video, “Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal,” will be broadcast before the Nov. 2 election on Sinclair Broadcast Group’s 62 stations, the largest chain of television stations in the United States.

The Sinclair chain is headed by David Smith and his three brothers whose collection of TV stations have promoted right-wing causes before, even barring its ABC affiliates from airing Nightline on April 30 when Ted Koppel paid tribute to U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq by reading their names and showing their photographs. Sinclair's thinking apparently was that listing the names of the dead would undermine the war effort.

“The Smith brothers and their executives have made 97 percent of their political donations during the 2004 election cycle to Bush and the Republicans,” according to Washington Post reporters Howard Kurtz and Frank Ahrens.

Democratic leaders have cited these Republican political ties in complaining that the Sinclair chain is simply broadcasting “Stolen Honor” as anti-Kerry propaganda to benefit the Bush campaign.

[mountainvue]

25. Champagne or white wine?

What? Is he watching his girlish figure? Anyway, I find it hard to believe he limits himself to just those two things, especially after seeing that picutre of him with a bottle of beer in front of him when he was visiting with Putin. Maybe it's just yellow liquids he limits himself to.:P

[elehhhhna]

38. It says "champaign". He slurped down a whole college town!

[JVS]

40. well most of campus is technically in Urbana

[Rincewind]

50. Champaign-Urbana

Most of the campus is in Urbana, but, most of the bars are in Champaign.

[QuestionAll...]

27. how many half glasses does he have?

that's the point.
a half glass of booze to an alchoholic is just a teaser.

did you ask your bartender friend that or did I miss that in the OP?

on edit:
I see the post has plural half glass.

anyway, no big news/deal - who doesn't know that the freak is on something or other.

[elehhhhna]

35. Bingo. His glass is always half full? Such an optimist, that George!

[Frazzled Educator]

31. But, you're confusing me. G-d called on George to lead us

And tell Jews they were going to hell.

[mnhtnbb]

42. George Bush cannot open his mouth without lying. Of course he's drinking

[mcscajun]

44. "only a half a glass @ a time..."

But, as other posters have pointed out...How Many "half-glasses"?

Half-glass in public...and the rest of the bottle in private.

Most "genteel" alcoholics don't get drunk in public, they wait until they're alone.

An alcoholic never has "just one drink".

My favorite rationalization was from a former friend of mine, who every year went through this exercise to convince himself and those around him that he did not have a drinking problem: He didn't have a single drink from Super Bowl Sunday until his birthday in late Spring. No drinking problem, right. :sarcasm:

[focusfan]

45. i wonder if democrates could use this to there advantage

maybe put it in an ad or something

[SlavesandBulldozers]

46. democrates?

i don't know. . . what's a democrate?

and how could they use it to "there" advantage.

maybe it would be hugh or something.

[chat_noir]

47. Bush at Kilgore rally in November 2005

CanOFun video via Crooks and Liars

http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&fr=slv1-msgr&p=Crooks+and+Liars+Bush+Kilgore&u=www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2005/11/13/bush-with-kilgore/&w=crooks+liars+bush+kilgore&d=ILdEOyQ8NYE7&icp=1&.intl=us

I wish someone would put this up on You Tube so that it doesn't disappear.

[Cleita]

49. So what else is new?

Of course he's drinking and he never stopped. I'm an ex-bartender and I never served Bush, but I know my drinkers. He is in no way even a dry drunk. He's quite wet and apparently could figure out how to get a drink at an AA meeting if it's called for.

Maybe someday the witnesses will come forward with the hard facts. In the meantime there is plenty of circumstancial evidence available in his body language and language he displays in public appearances. No rocket science is needed here.

[npincus]

51. B*sh afflicted with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?

Here's a thread i posted a while back...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1812982

[seabeyond]

52. i never empty my glass, and top it. that way i am always 1 glass

of wine. odd that it seems, my hubby and i laugh that my one glass can be a bottle. always "freshening" my glass. ya right

i know a drunk doesnt drink have a glass and that be it. doesnt happen. i am a lousy drinker. i dont do it at all and never did it often...... but never could stop at half a glass and i wasnt an alcoholic

[bridgit]

55. i wish i had thought of that; if you've had 6, half glasses of wine...

bourbon, beer, whatever...have you still not had ONE FULL DRINK

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

56. They outright lie about so much, I'm not sure why they'd even care to

"skirt around" the truth with this kind of gameplaying. Seriously. Although I'd certainly believe it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

57. Argentina! hahahahahaha!!! They fucked up the economy with a free

market experiment, and now that the country is economically depressed, it's probably the only place on the planet they can go when they get exiled where they'll get more bang for the buck.

Oh, as for that half glass alcohol limit for plausible deniabiility, I really hope it's true because it parallel's Clinton's claim that blowjobs are not sex.

White men have weird issues, don't they? Makes it understandable why they can call themselves Christians, at the same time that they're raiding our pensions.

[GeorgeGist]

58. Meaningless drivel...

[donsu]

60. so it's Argentina they are all going to run to - they must have installed

their own govt. there by now.

wonder what other bolt holes they have established in case Argentina isn't doable

[Cleita]

62. I guess they didn't get the memo.

The only reason the Nazis were able to escape successfully to Argentina, Chile and other countries in SA is because they already had family there who had been there for a few generations and could create a cover for them. See the old movie, "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse", the Glenn Ford version that nicely outlines the connection.

Considering what an ass Bush made of himself visiting those countries, I don't think the welcome mat is going to be out for him and his companions in crime. However, they might find languishing in an Argentinian jail helpful for meditation about their lives and appropriate remorse.