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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:11 AM
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Wassup With The "I'm An Independent" BushBots?
If you walk like a duck and quack like a duck...has anybody else noticed that all the remaining (read: lunatic fringe) Bush apologists you run into claim they are "independent?" Usually claiming some long ago Dem vote as "proof" of their independence. It always turns out they watch Faux News and when you ask, have you voted for anything other than GOP since you started watching that crap? Well no.

I've never met a self-professed "independent" who wasn't a lunatic RWer and GOP voter!
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:14 AM
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1. Would you admit to being a supporter ...
of the single dumbest motherfucker ever to steal the presidency?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:15 AM
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2. pleased to meet you
I am an independent, and I am insulted by that remark. I know many independents who are not Bushbots. In fact, some who claims to be both an independent and a Bush supporter is simply trying to defile the independent, IMO.

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:17 AM
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4. They mistakenly think they can fool people
into thinking they are not Bushbots--just genuine independent thinkers who have come to Bush of their own accord.

Yeah, sure.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:44 AM
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7. Just Talkin' IN MY EXPERIENCE....
So are you taking a break from Independents Underground?

In my experience the only ones who will say "I'm an independent, and I think..." the next part of the sentence is FoxNews Talking points! Like O'Reilly claims he is an Independent but Al Franken found his GOP registration. I had almost that same experience with a neighbor and busted him at the polls because he was standing in the GOP line, LOL! I'm like shouldn't you be over THERE??
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:31 PM
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14. LOL...
IU...hehe...come to think of it...yeah the 'I am against capital punishment, support Israel and am pro-choice, so I'm a Progressive and your on the looney left' schtick...hadn't noticed ;-)
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:04 PM
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21. They have to call themselves "Independent"
Because there is no Nazi party recognition (yet) on the ballots.
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:27 AM
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5. Sorry you are offended
But, can you please explain to me even one political event that has taken place in the last 6 years that one could possibly be independent about? Really, I'm very curious. I do not mean it as an insult either. I'm just not able to understand being independent right now. Maybe a decade ago, maybe disgusted with Clinton's behavior, maybe a lot of things....but how can anyone be independent now?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:46 AM
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8. As Long As They Are Offended Anyway....
Although my orig point was Independents Who Always Vote GOP, I'll add...they also tend to be cranky!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:25 PM
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18. This year
They tend to be GOP'ers who are too embarrassed to admit it.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:01 PM
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20. My Point Exactly And They Have
good reasoned to be HUMILIATED AND ASHAMED!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:37 PM
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19. Bizarre. The 'logic' in your post seems to imply ...
... that the only source of an opinion is from a partisan political perspective. At the same time, I might ask what issues are Democrats of one mind on? Immigration? Iraq? Economy? Yeah. Right. :eyes:

As an independent myself, I find the support that 'Democratic' partisans give to people like Ben Nelson something that can't get past my gag reflex. Maybe 'independent' means supportive of candidates from the left no matter which party they claim? There are more political parties than merely the Democratic and Republican parties ... ans some folks don't think the oligopoly is a "good thing".

(FWIW, Jim Jeffords is an independent and I'd vote for him above Ben Nelson any day.)

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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:17 AM
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3. Sometimes it is best to allow someone their dignity.....
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 11:18 AM by 5X
in the end, they may just end up agreeing with you,
if they are given an opening.

If their declaration of independence allows them some
semblance of self worth while allowing for a change of mind,
let it happen.

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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:31 AM
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6. So true: your last sentence.....
My theory is that those who run around claiming "independence" while showing none at all are people who are particularly unable to think for themselves. I think they have a weak sense of their own values.

For some reason they are also people who expect a candidate or Party to be perfect. They can't just call themselves Democrat or Republican because they support the general drift of one party over another. Again, I think it's having a weak sense of their own values, and needing an outside source to model them.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:51 AM
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9. Why, uh...O'LOOFAH is an "Independent" NOT a Shrubbot!!!1
His proof for this is that he does NOT share 100% of the wingnut agenda. Why, he's got TWO issues he disagrees with them about: The environment and the death penalty. And anybody can READILY SEE how often those two issues just DOMINATE his programs. Why, he has even found letters from viewers accusing him of being DAMNED LIB!!!!1 Otoh, when one accused him of being too soft when he loofahed Ahhhnuld, his proof that he was NOT was that he gave Ahhnuld a vewy vewy hard time for owning Hummers while claiming to be an environmentalist!!!1

Perhaps that he was a "combat reporter" is what's behind this:
Here's chickenhawk O'LOOFAH receiving the VFW Errect Loofah Award
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:59 AM
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10. Probably just their latest craze/fashion.
What with it being too early for the war on Christmas or Halloween, what's a repug to do?
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:03 PM
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11. The worst are the "Libertarians"
The ones who claim to be libertarians but always vote republican and defend Bush. What a bunch of sell-outs. The only liberties that they care about are their own. The Administration can use the Constitution for toilet paper and they would not care as long as they get a few hundred extra dollars in tax cuts, can pollute the water table and harass their employees.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:07 PM
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12. Conservativism has been tried, and it failed.
If they can recognize that fact, they can call themselves anything they like. But if it's only a way of distancing Conservatism from GW Bush and the GOP, then they can go fuck themselves. They own it. They got everything they were demanding. Their 'grand ideology' was put into play, and it's been a disaster on every front.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:09 PM
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13. They think it gives them the appearance of objectivity. n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:36 PM
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15. It would be too embarrassing to admit being a jr supporter
unless you were a total shit for brains. Thus, "I am independent"
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:21 PM
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16. It's True, People Are Humiliated To Be GOP!
Who can blame them? Those admitting to it almost always put in a qualifier like "but I'm moderate" "but I've voted for Clinton" or something....

The only ones stupid enough to be proud of it are the lunatic fringe Freepers, it will be funny to see their reaction as the GOP candidates RUN RUN RUN away from their Chimp hero in the fall!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:23 PM
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17. It's hard to find people who will admit...
to voting for him in 2004, even Repukes.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:33 PM
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22. After Watergate few admitted they voted for Nixon.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:36 PM
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23. You mean the ones that call into left radio?
When ever I hear the words "I'm an independent" ..... my bullshit meter goes off the chart.

It's like gaydar.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:41 PM
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24. they do that so they don't have to defend the Republicans
they are the type that bashes everything a Democrat does but when you bring up Republican assholes they respond with "i'm not a Republican, i'm an independent". or "but they all do that".

so they can go on bashing democrats, Liberals etc while never having to defend the side they are on .
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:50 PM
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25. They want the tax cuts, but not the shame.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:05 PM
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26. Believe it or not, I really and truly AM an independent
but right now, I cannot think of a Republican I would vote for.

It's sad.
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